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 Posted 08/26/2012  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list
That crack looks like its on the slab, and yes SGS is an extremely unreliably TPG
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 Posted 08/26/2012  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stewart to your friends list
A True Rarity would be an SGS graded coin that did not have
an MS70 Label on it
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 Posted 08/26/2012  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Drsandman2 to your friends list
That is exactly what die cracks look like on modern proofs. Although it may not be PR70, they marked it as a die crack for a reason. I would examine it further, check out these articles:

https://goccf.com/t/126133&whichpage=2
http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis...ticleId=3580
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08/26/2012 8:59 pm
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 Posted 08/26/2012  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add errorist to your friends list
PF-70 not a ms-70..........
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 Posted 08/26/2012  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add errorist to your friends list
Trust me I know my die cracks....
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 Posted 08/26/2012  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
PF MS still not a 70. Stewarts right the truly special error would be a SGS label that doesn't have a 70
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 Posted 08/27/2012  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Drsandman2 to your friends list

Quote:
Trust me I know my die cracks....


You suggested that this was not an error because SGS graded it as a PR70. I was unaware that you even looked at the coin; if you had you would notice the massive die crack. Forgive me for trying to help out.
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 Posted 08/27/2012  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TrickyxMick to your friends list
Nice die crack
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 Posted 08/27/2012  02:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Forgive me for trying to help out.




That comment rubbed me the wrong way as well. He may know his errors but certainly not his TPGs
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 Posted 08/27/2012  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clairhardesty to your friends list
Is the whole coin silver or just the die crack? Here is an accurately (or perhaps a little harshly) graded proof silver quarter that PCGS failed to recognize as an error. They insisted that this coin is as the mint intended it to be.

Perfect-Error?
Perfect-Error?

While SGS may have a problem grading any modern anything less than 70 (even errors), PCGS seems to think that modern errors don't exist, even when the words STATES OF are crossed out by one.

Maybe if we get the two companies together we can get accurately graded and properly attributed modern errors.
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 Posted 08/27/2012  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
Wait till CAC decide to grade modern error. I wonder what kind of color bean they will stick it on the face of the slab?
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 Posted 08/27/2012  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
clairhardesty, I don't believe that is a die crack that you have on your coin. I am not 100% sure what you would call that but definitely doesn't look like a die crack to me
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 Posted 08/28/2012  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add huntsman53 to your friends list
I am thinking a Collar Clash but I have never seen one like that one! Great find!


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 Posted 08/28/2012  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add huntsman53 to your friends list
As to the OP's coin, I would have to say that the holed wood board that the slabbed coin is laying on, is probably in better condition than most coins that SGS pins with a PF-70 or MS-70 grade!


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 Posted 08/28/2012  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
As to clairhardesty's coin I would wonder about the possibility of an incomplete clip. The punch came down and made contact with the strip scoring it but not punching out a blank. Then it was advanced slightly and a full blank was punched out. This would give you a planchet with a arc cut in it that follows the curve of the edge.

There appears to be a fainter matching arc through PLURIBUS UNUM 2009 on the reverse and that would fit with an incomplete clip.
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