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What Are You Feelings On Toned Coins?

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 Posted 09/15/2012  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harry213 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Toning is like grey hair. You can have it dyed to the color you want or wait until it turns grey. Would you hold it against somebody if they dyed their hair blonde?

I prefer a natural grey, blond or Red head over an artificial one any day, same holds true for toned coins
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09/16/2012 07:42 am
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 Posted 09/16/2012  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank You All for you comments wether they be pro or con. I value all of your opinions on this. Keep em coming.
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 Posted 09/16/2012  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lonz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Absolutely love finding pennies that you can tell are "ender's" just found a gorgeous 1987 that I holdered because of it - I NEVER holder 87's - even if they are BU straight from an OBW.

Then you have my mom's collection. I call em "Tobacco Toned" because they were sitting in her smoky house for decades - very dark appearance, but rather appealing - deep blues/purples/reds. I've actually read articles where coins can be artificially toned with smoke from cigarettes - the nicotine and tar react with the copper. These would probably be considered "Damaged-Environmental" by a TPG labeled "genuine" if lucky.
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 Posted 09/20/2012  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CanadianCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I generally like toned coins but I would not pay a huge premium for one (especially with so many ways of artificially toning one now!). The toning has to enhance the eye appeal of the coin in some way for me to like it though.

This penny is toned/tarnished in a way that does nothing to enhance eye appeal. The toning (and other problems) just reduce the eye appeal of what appears to be a fairly high grade penny.


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This dime on the other hand is toned in such a way that it brings out the details. I like this effect especially on lower grade coins where the details are worn to begin with. It enhances the eye appeal (in my opinion) and makes the coin look less boring than a regular worn coin with no toning.


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(The Mercury dime is NOT my photo. I got it from google images)
My favourite toned coins are rainbow toned ones. The beauty and uniqueness of the colours on them can be dazzling! Even the artificially toned ones can look really spectacular (although I don't see the point of artificially toning a coin that is problem free).
I found this dime (along with four others just like it with my metal detector this summer. The rainbow effect on it comes solely from being in the ground for ~20 years.


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09/20/2012 12:06 am
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 Posted 09/20/2012  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To Canadian Collector ..A Very Nice toned coin that you found with you metal detector. I would say its safe to say its naturally toned. he he
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This dime on the other hand is toned in such a way that it brings out the details. I like this effect especially on lower grade coins where the details are worn to begin with. It enhances the eye appeal (in my opinion) and makes the coin look less boring than a regular worn coin with no toning.

You may want to check out this thread
https://goccf.com/t/129321
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 Posted 09/22/2012  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, I love "nice" coins whether they are blast-white, or whether they are deeply and warmly toned => to me, it all depends upon the overall eye-appeal of the coin in question ...

Ummmm, yah I realize that ancient coins fall into a different category, but when I started reading through this thread, I started thinking about my one and only Byzantine coin ...

I bought this coin because of its multi-colured toning (patina) ... sure, it may lose a few points in the ol' condition-column, but

=> I just had to pull the trigger and bring this bad boy home!!

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My point is => this is an extreme case of a coin that still has some crazy eye-appeal, but it is far, far from being in "mint" condition!!
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09/22/2012 11:41 am
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 Posted 09/23/2012  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the most colorful one I've ever seen!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1945-Canada...em41690dae70
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 Posted 09/24/2012  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin Chick ..That is a prime example of a Doctored Coin...Colors are too un-natural and in areas that are plain to see that have been clearly planned.
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 Posted 09/24/2012  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So why would a TPG company grade it? I thought they aren't supposed to grade AT coins.
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 Posted 09/24/2012  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tevlon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, that coin lOoks artificial. Though it is beautiful. I love toned coins but don't trust them to pay a premium. It's to easy to fake it. I do it to some of my silver bullion because I get tired of seeing the same exact thing. It's very easy. Any relatively modern coin is not naturally toned. Even if it's not done instantly but purposely kept in conditions to cause it to tone, I would consider unnatural and wrong to sell at a premium.
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 Posted 09/25/2012  03:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
during my very early years in collectng silver coins, I like to see them sparkling clean...it was a disaster.

so I stowed them away forever, after 4 years they took on a natural looking tone, which was surprising, it turned out the small plastic envelope I used had some sulfur content in it.

so for blast white disaster silver crowns, I store in plastic with some sulfur content and forget about them for the next 4 years it's a long wait for some nice toning
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 Posted 09/25/2012  03:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.jhonecash.com/coins/tonedmorgans.asp

Not a link from anyone I've purchased from, and not wanting to imply that, this site does have what I like to see in toned Morgan dollars. Simply amazing pieces.

Also some really good articles on toning, and NT vs. AT and how to spot some of the tougher pieces passed by the unscrupulous coin doctors.
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09/25/2012 03:26 am
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 Posted 09/25/2012  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Senex to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It depends on the toning. Some coins are gorgeous, some are downright ugly.
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 Posted 09/26/2012  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To Coin Chick. Hey its a matter of taste weather it be natural or artificially toned. I feel the naturally toned coins are better in the sense of being more true to the coin as being not doctored to change its appearance. So what I'm trying to say, If you like it then don't worry about what anybody thinks of it, including me. As far as grading thats a whole different story. Many graders see coins in a different light. They do provide a valuable service and they do make bad calls and will or will not mention things that others do.
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