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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would definitely be hesitant to say that this is genuine. There are many caution signs here. First of all, a second strike which is so strong is not common imo. And, although it isn't unheard of, the reverse fails to show any evidence of a second strike. In addition, the metal does not look like silver. Either this, or it was just cleaned. The details too, are odd looking, almost crude. Wait until Mike Diamond comes around; I believe he is best qualified to say whether or not this is real.
Edited by ErrorCoins222 10/02/2012 11:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I was hesitant to quote it look odd because I am unsure, so I reply by saying sending it to 3rd party grading service.
If its real, that's a great find.
The reverse does look odd, as it appears worn and almost a cast copy like, but that should also apply to the obverse, which I am not quite seeing.
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United States
808 Posts |
 Really need one of the more knowledgeable numismatists to comment on this. It may need to be sent to one of them for an in hand inspection. Cool find regardless it being fake or real ! Good luck!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1699 Posts |
I guess I didn't even think that it may be a doubled die. In which case I would say it is a fake.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5838 Posts |
I see what you are referring to ErrorCoins222!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1796 Posts |
@bbattles01 - First welcome to the forum! I, too, am seeing some visceral "red flags" while looking at your coin. I've never heard of such a pronounced 1964 doubled die, nor can I find anything on it, and something like this would be touted by all of the literature and magazines as "the next 1955 Lincoln Penny doubled die." Could we see an image of the reeding on the edge? Counterfeiters seldom get reeding right, so it would be a good place to check.
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Valued Member
United States
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Quote: I would definitely be hesitant to say that this is genuine. There are many caution signs here. First of all, a second strike which is so strong is not common imo. And, although it isn't unheard of, the reverse fails to show any evidence of a second strike. In addition, the metal does not look like silver. Either this, or it was just cleaned. The details too, are odd looking, almost crude. Wait until Mike Diamond comes around; I believe he is best qualified to say whether or not this is real. I stand by my original recommendation, contact Fred Weinberg for an opinion, he may want you to send the coin into him for an in hand examination. If you were having brain surgery done would you want a P.A. or Neurosurgeon doing the procedure? Go with the best. Some may contact you trying to buy the coin; my advice would be to get it authenticated first and then get a couple of opinions from error dealers on its value.
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New Member
United States
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That is a beautiful Coin... WOW! Good Find! Don't take any offers, get that baby certified.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
571 Posts |
Looks like a fake to me. That wierd porosity on the reverse looks like some kind of cast copy to me. If you can get a weight on the coin, it may help to determine if it is silver, or if it is some other metal.
Dave
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United States
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If it was genuine, it would be a doubled die as severe as the 1955 doubled die cent. However, it shows every indication of being a counterfeit. The mushy design and porous texture are just two indicators. The counterfeit obverse die has strong hub doubling.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5838 Posts |
That says it all from the expert, now that was a short lived conversation piece.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Valued Member
United States
366 Posts |
Needs to be sent in... if authentic it would be a spectacular find... but not likely authentic in my opinion. Reverse just doesn't fit the logic of the obverse. Close up pics would be helpful too.
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Valued Member
United States
360 Posts |
I agree with mikediamond. Although I am no expert in errors or fakes, this one is almost obviously faked. I would still keep it just as a conversation piece. I also would keep it to say that I have a faked coin. I want to start collecting fakes as references and conversation pieces. Good luck on the rest of your numismatics.
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Valued Member
United States
192 Posts |
I don't think the letters would be side by side with their double, they would all be going east or west, or north or south, not some doubling up some down...ect.
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