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I am worried that this is a modern cast fake. I have seen these dies before... I need to look around.
Martin
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I can't find anything matching but something is screaming at me in my head that I have seen this coin discussed somewhere before.
Martin
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I could be completely wrong as I am off work with a fever but hey-ho....
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Jerry, you took the words right out of my mouth. "when there is doubt......". Since the seller counter-offered, I will just let this one pass. It may or may not be authentic, but I don't want the possibility hanging over the purchase. I will just keep looking for a nice Nero Tet. Thanks to all for the responses. It's threads like this that keep me from walking on the train track.
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I hope you feel better before the weekend, maridvnvm ... Oh, and for the record => this weekend is a long weekend (Canadian Thanksgiving) ... it's turkey-time!!   |
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I think this my have been a purchase to regret JW, often hard to realise when your in the hot seat and getting good offers. Here is a closer picture of what appears to be yellow base metal poking through, around where the legend has been worn away on the obverse.  I cant really think of an innocent explanation for it - I may also see a seam under the bust but its very hard to be 100% from a standard picture. I'm glad I wasn't the only one with suspicions, I held off posting for a while thinking I was crazy but wanted to say something before you pulled the trigger. Happy Thanksgiving to our Canadian members, enjoy the turkey. Edited by bobbyhelmet
10/04/2012 11:21 am
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Innocent explanation: When a coin is made of a debased alloy, sometimes the mint 'pickled' the flan by soaking in a mild acid before striking. This treatment dissolved a bit of the copper from the surface leaving a porous honeycomb of better silver on top. When the coin was struck, pressure smashed this down making the surface a higher percentage of silver than the interior of the coin. As the coin wears, the interior will start to show in some places but it is still a silver alloy just a little bit less pure than the surface rather than a completely different metal as is the case with fourrees. Sometimes we even see the entire enriched surface exfoliate leaving a porous coin with occasional patches of the surface here and there. I recently posted a coin of Parion with this problem in another thread. I recommended against buying the coin in question because it was on so small a flan and was missing so much legend although it does have the name Nero. I has no trace of the double dating which I think makes the type extra special. http://www.pbase.com/dougsmit/image/117809611 |
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So do you believe it to be genuine Doug? Is your explanation what has happened or what may have happened?
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I believe the coin is 100% genuine. That is just me.
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All the coins I've seen personally with this sort of discoloration were fakes and I too feel I've seen these dies somewhere but, like Martin, can't seem to find where  Could well be genuine, I'm sure either way it would clearly show in hands, but I wouldn't take the risk  |
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I'm sure either way it would clearly show in hands, but I wouldn't take the risk Hit the nail on the head, I guess thats the issue here. |
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Uh-oh => I think my good friend, DVC, said it best:  Hey Steve! Glad that clip continues to entertain.  Even with incomplete legends, the centering is nice on both sides--something about that, naah. |
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Posted 10/04/2012 07:15 am
