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Pillar of the Community
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He needs to take a course in Coin Collecting 101, and learn how to hold a coin...
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Bedrock of the Community
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Is this a vote for or against authenticity. Dunno, but the denticles look off...even with that corrosion.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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He needs to take a course in Coin Collecting 101, and learn how to hold a coin...
The classic copper guys can answer better than I, but I've always felt if its an old circulated coin handling it doesn't matter since you arent doing anything to it that hasnt been done a thousand+ times. That said I wouldnt take a picture with my paws all over it when trying to sell it |
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This looks off to me based on the thickness of the letters. Here's my genuine example for comparison (NGC AU58 BN):  |
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SmallEagle, That should be sufficient...thanks  Mount removed? swcoin.ecrater.com
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Mine is in a problem free NGC AU58 holder. My Photoshop abilities are not problem free, apparently :)
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Ahh, it's in the new 4 prong holder. Got it. Beautiful piece! Forgive me, they looked like dents :o
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Bedrock of the Community
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This looks off to me based on the thickness of the letters Ah...now I see it! The thick/thin strokes of the "S"--the ebay coin is a poor copy in that regard. Compare the ebay coin to one sold at an auction for $750 It has a similar appearance--did someone get robbed?   |
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Quote:Compare the ebay coin to one sold at an auction for $750 It has a similar appearance--did someone get robbed? Wow. Even worse, that one sold under Superior's auspices - it went in the auction at the Santa Clara Expo. If there are not recognizable die varieties, using SmallEagle's coin as a basis, the serifs are all wrong in addition to the letter strokes. That applies to both the OP coin and the one you linked, DVCollector. |
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I've never seen one with that thick of an 'S' - here is the Heritage previous sold examples which all look to have thin letters: http://coins.ha.com/c/search-result...tles&Ntt=barThere is some demand for some of the restrikes so perhaps that Superior coin was sold with them knowing it was a contemporary counterfeit. |
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There is some demand for some of the restrikes so perhaps that Superior coin was sold with them knowing it was a contemporary counterfeit.
I totally agree that the restrikes are in great demand among Colonial collectors although I would much rather have even a lower grade or corroded genuine specimen to fill that hole in my type set. swcoin.ecrater.com
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Bedrock of the Community
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SmallEagle--thanks for that link. That's a nice, original piece--I see the reverse die break too. Here's another informative page that compares the originals to 19th C restrikes with several "non-deceptive" modern fakes that look very similar to the coin from that auction.  Edited by DVCollector
10/21/2012 2:51 pm
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Two things to note about the example labeled as a "modern reproduction" on that page, DVCollector, which relate to the two examples here. First, the top of the lower serif of the "S" appears horizontal on the reproduction, and angled on SmallEagle's coin. Second, the bitemark out of the right serif of the "A." Aside the stroke of the "S," which is a smoking gun to begin with. Looks like the OP seller ended the auction, hopefully for the right reasons. Their Feedback was excellent, and they're a coin specialist, so I'm inclined to be optimistic.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yes, I saw a lot of small details that had me going Perhaps it's a skill I picked up from collecting ancients, but the whole "fabric" of the coin is wrong too--despite the perhaps intentional corrosion to mask the appearance of modern manufacturing. |
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Pillar of the Community
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That "corroded" appearance of the OP coin sure looked similar to that of the "modern reproduction" in that great link you posted.
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