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2012 Commemorative Quandary: Proof V Unc

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 Posted 11/06/2012  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
My collection of modern US commemorative dollars is made up of all uncirculated coins, with just a handful of "extra" proof coins added for one reason or another. I prefer the "look" of the uncirculated coins, mostly because I like their uniform finish (it reminds me of classic US commemorative coinage) and they do not tend to develop the spots and "milky" haze that many proof coins do â€" I find these impairments very distracting and they take away from my enjoyment of the coin.

I have both versions of the SSB dollar in hand (thanks to my purchase of the Bicentennial Set you mentioned) and can say that both are attractive coins. I've uploaded an image of the SSB uncirculated dollar so that you have a real coin to view vs. the Mint website's artist depictions - maybe it will help you decide.

Good luck!


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 Posted 11/06/2012  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add devilsbite to your friends list
Thank you everyone for your comments and especially commems for the photo!

I've spent more than a few minutes looking at muddler's SSB proof in his Modern Commemorative Dollars thread, commems' photo provides a great balance.

My mind has been swayed, it looks great in uncirculated too so that's what I'll get from the mint.

As has been said, I can always grab the proof down the road as it'll likely be the less expensive of the two.
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 Posted 11/06/2012  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
@devilsbite: I'm glad the images were useful to you. I'm sure you'll enjoy your new SSB coin!

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 Posted 11/08/2012  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list
That pic convinced me to buy the SSB Uncirculated.

I thought the reverse wouldn't translate well to MS finish, but it looks really interesting on the actual coin.
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 Posted 11/21/2012  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add devilsbite to your friends list
My SSB and Infantry commems landed today!

Very nice coins, super happy with my decision!

muddler's comment about the "grainy" devices on the current proofs informed my decision as well. Looking at my ASE's (proof -v- unc) I'm not to excited about how the proofs look. I much prefer the "smooth" look of the uncirculated coins.

The uncirculated coins look much more like a sculpture than the "laser proofs". To me, the new process is more two dimensional, like a print rather than a true 3D surface.

While putting my new beauties away I noticed that my 82 Washington is a proof. I guess this wouldn't have been my first one! Now I'm motivated to make a new ebay search; only 20 more posts and I'll be able to do commerce here.

Sorry about bumping this thread but I wanted to close the loop and say thanks again!
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 Posted 11/21/2012  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Looking at my ASE's (proof -v- unc) I'm not to excited about how the proofs look. I much prefer the "smooth" look of the uncirculated coins.




I started out doing a set of both and that quickly became an uncirculated set after seeing them together. Congrats on the new coins
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 Posted 11/21/2012  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
Glad you're happy with your purchases! Keep us posted on your future additions!

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 Posted 11/22/2012  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yotie to your friends list
do we know the final mintage numbers for the SSB coins yet?
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 Posted 11/22/2012  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
Theyre still on sale. Theyre limited in the amount they can make though by the law
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 Posted 11/22/2012  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
Here are the latest sales figures for the SSB coins:

Proof Gold: 5,792
Uncirculated Gold: 6,257
Proof Silver: 110,199
Uncirculated Silver: 39,489
Two Coin Set: 11,217
Bicentennial Silver Dollar Set: 31,607

Sales of the gold coins have been the most active lately, with the uncirculated version seeing the strongest sales -- it's actually now sold more than the individual proof coins. This is likely being caused by folks speculating on the future potential of the uncirculated gold coins - until recently, sales of the uncirculated coin were well below 5,000.

With the exception of the gold coins, it's unlikely that any of the figures above will increase by more than a few percent by the time the coins go off sale.

I think the most surprising numbers above are the individual proof and uncirculated gold coin sales -- it's not typical for the uncirculated coins to outsell the proofs. Of course, if you add in the gold proof coins from the two-coin set, the ratio changes to a more typical 3-to-1 (proof-to-uncirculated).





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 Posted 11/23/2012  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add devilsbite to your friends list
Thanks for the numbers commems. Was wondering the same thing myself.

Spent a few minutes today getting quick pics of the new coins and thought y'all might like to see them. As arrived and lightly handled, in capsules, shot with terrible light.

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I would love to see some pictures of the proof or gold versions! Could we change the title of this thread to:

Post your 2012 Commems - no pics, didn't happen!

Might be fun to see what everyone's got.


eta: I've got it bad...bid on a low scoring slabbed Olympic dollar proof on ebay! When will it end?

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11/23/2012 4:49 pm
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 Posted 11/23/2012  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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I've got it bad...bid on a low scoring slabbed Olympic dollar proof on ebay! When will it end?


Dont worry its only around a hundred or so coins for the MS set if you count the half dollars too. Then of coure you can move on to the classic series as well
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 Posted 11/23/2012  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list
Then of course there are the two dollars a year that come out each year after that.
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 Posted 11/23/2012  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I always choose Proof over UNC coins because I love the mirrored fields over the frosted ones. Its about like a DMPL Morgan against a regular Business strike without the mirrored fields, I will take the DMPL every time
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 Posted 11/24/2012  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add devilsbite to your friends list
muddler & Bryan1315, mind posting photos of your proofs in this thread? Might help sway the opinion of a new reader.

And I like photos!



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