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TPG22....
I have only submitted precertified SLQ's to PCGS - and when I think
the coin does qualify for a FH, I put that PCGS number on the sub-
mission sheet.
ie: # 5706 is for a Non FH - 1917 Type One
& : # 5707 is for a Full Head - 1917 Ty One
If the coin is no where near a FH, just use the regular #,
but, if you feel confident ( not just lucky ) it's a FH, why
not use the FH number on the submission ?
If you are overly optimistic - as many of us are - they'll
be happy to bring you down a peg or two.
Good luck !
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Thanks Elbesaar. I had not looked close enough to see two seperate codes. I will most likely post an image here first to see what the "brain" thinks.
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The "brain"... That's rich. 😜
"The PCGS Coin Numbering System" book only
lists the non Full Head numbers. Look at the PCGS
price list published on their site which will have the
FH numbers.
Always agreeable to check out nice coins.
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Lots of really nice coins displayed here. I'm not building a set. I'd have to commit all of my resources to it, and then I still would fall short of the goal when it came time to add the 1916. I have always liked the design, and when I see one I can afford, and one that looks like a good value, I'll buy it. I have a 1920-S that I want to run by the experts here, but it's toned pretty dark, and the sun has refused to shine for even a few minutes the past 3 days. I'm wondering if the experts think this coin might meet the "full head" criteria. It probably "just misses", but the 20-S is a tough issue to find with a fully struck head. It's currently the "type 2" representative in my Dansco 7070 type set. These pics aren't the best ... I know I can do better on a bright, sunny day, but there doesn't seem to be any of those predicted in the near future. Chance ![Anyone-Working-On-An-SLQ-Collection-[-1916-1930-]-?](http://i.imgur.com/96cwngF.jpg) ![Anyone-Working-On-An-SLQ-Collection-[-1916-1930-]-?](http://i.imgur.com/OtU2MCq.jpg) ![Anyone-Working-On-An-SLQ-Collection-[-1916-1930-]-?](http://i.imgur.com/m3XD0TS.jpg) |
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I think it might, if I cmopare it to my own coin, which got the FH designation. https://goccf.com/t/135314But then again, maybe the rarity of the 20-S fh makes them grade this abit tougher... hmm, yours doesn't show the ear hole though... tough call Edited by epikur
10/18/2013 04:36 am
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epikur, did you send your coin in raw? If yes, did you just send it in and have them decide if it was FH or did you put the PCGS code for FH for that date and try to lead them in that direction? I know with VAM's you have to list what you want them to find. Same with double die varieties. Is it the same with SLQ's and full head? I don't want to send it in, have it come back regular and find out later that I didn't do something correctly to get the FH designation. |
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Looks like we have some sunshine today. I'll take better pictures. It took about 20 attempts to get those...and they aren't very good.
Chance
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tpg22:
I used NGC and sent it in raw. With them, I didn't put anything special down as a variety. I think the same thing applies for the other strike quality varieties, FSB, FBL FT and so on..
But with PCGS, I can't help you, sorry
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Thanks. I guess I will need to call them. I was hoping someone here would know but so far nobody has sent a raw one in.
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These are a little better, I think. I never noticed the die crack that runs right through her head before taking these shots. That explains some of the detail loss. What you can't tell from any of these pictures, is that despite the toning, the mint luster is pretty well intact. Chance ![Anyone-Working-On-An-SLQ-Collection-[-1916-1930-]-?](http://i.imgur.com/0jPsNxZ.jpg) ![Anyone-Working-On-An-SLQ-Collection-[-1916-1930-]-?](http://i.imgur.com/U2sUlFT.jpg) ![Anyone-Working-On-An-SLQ-Collection-[-1916-1930-]-?](http://i.imgur.com/BfYQIoc.jpg) Edited by Chancellor Sutler
10/18/2013 11:00 am
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Don't shoot the messenger... the 20-S is NOT a FH.
I personally don't think it'll get a grade - just a genuine.
The 1923 that was submitted raw to NGC may be graded as a FH
by NGC - however - it won't cross to PCGS as the three sprig
leaves are missing on Liberty's Head. Her ear hole is there, the hair line seemed to be there. Its a nice coin and should be highly regarded.
Keep posting - I really like the series - thanks !
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Don't shoot the messenger... the 20-S is NOT a FH.
I personally don't think it'll get a grade - just a genuine.
The 1923 that was submitted raw to NGC may be graded as a FH
by NGC - however - it won't cross to PCGS as the three sprig
leaves are missing on Liberty's Head. Her ear hole is there, the hair line seemed to be there. Its a nice coin and should be highly regarded.
Keep posting - I really like the series - thanks !
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Whether or not the coin would receive a grade is neither here nor there since I don't use 3rd party grading services. I have a pretty extensive collection and don't own a single slab. I wasjust seeking an opinion ... because the coin is so crusty, that even "in hand" under intense magnification, I was having trouble making a determination. It's pretty close ... but no cigar.
That said ... I am going to dip this one out. I removed about half of the toning last night using a series of short periods of time in an ammonia and distilled water solution, rinsing and patting dry with a soft cotton cloth. In the pics displayed here, the image is so flooded with light, that any hint of mint luster is unable to show through the toning. The coin was nearly black, particularly on the right side. What can't be seen, is that the original luster is completely intact. I resisted doing anything with this coin for 2 years, but eye appeal is so important where "things of beauty" are concerned, that I don't see any alternative aside from just letting it deteriorate. "Toning" turns to "tarnish" which leads to "corrosion". It's an inevitable path. Despite its poor depiction here, it is a very nice specimen, but I am no good at taking pictures of really darkly toned coins.
Chance
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I never noticed this before ... but look at the letter "R" in "quarter" .. how it's not fully struck. That's exactly opposite her head. I'm going to look at some full head coins and see if that letter is fully struck on those. I'm betting that it is. Here's the reverse, which was not as dark. Chance ![Anyone-Working-On-An-SLQ-Collection-[-1916-1930-]-?](http://i.imgur.com/6HPQJIP.jpg) Edited by Chancellor Sutler
10/20/2013 11:34 am
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