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School Me Please...1836-39 Reeded Half

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 Posted 01/10/2013  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ron_CA to your friends list
Ok Guys thanks. For some reason I was thinking it was something different.

Class dismissed.
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 Posted 01/10/2013  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morgandude to your friends list
the capped busts that have a reeded edge just looks somehow different overall for some reason.
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 Posted 01/10/2013  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list
Capped Bust Halves were produced using the Screw Press until 1836. At the end of 1836, the mint issued 1,200 new Capped Bust Halves that were minted using the new Steam Press. The steam press used much greater pressure and led to a much more even and stronger strike:
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 Posted 01/11/2013  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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he capped busts that have a reeded edge just looks somehow different overall for some reason.

That's because they did modify the design on the reeded edge halves.
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 Posted 01/11/2013  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morgandude to your friends list
thanks Conder101... I was wondering if that was the case!
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 Posted 01/11/2013  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
To me a 36 to 39 reeded edge half dollar,has little different design and is smaller size. Capped bust half is 32.5mm, the reeded is 30mm.

The capped bust has smooth with lettered edge. With the letters, "50 cents or half dollar"

Starting mid year 1836, a reeded edge was added. Pretty much like the edge of the current half dollar today.
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 Posted 01/11/2013  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list
It is definitely a different design. Similar but I could pick them out easily without the date or size differences being obvious. If you check my 7070 pictures you can see them side by side.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom B to your friends list
The number given for the mintage of the 1836 RE half dollar is absolute conjecture made up by Walter Breen. He did his best to reckon what he thought was realistic, but my analysis of the true mintage strongly favors 25,000 or more minted that year. Breen went with the total mintage for 1836, which included the CBHs made that year, then guessed how many were RE half dollars. I go into great detail in the book that Dick Graham and I wrote on the series.

Below are images of the both accepted subtypes of RE half dollars. They are the "50 CENTS" reverse of 1836-1837 and "HALF DOL." reverse of 1838-1839.

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 Posted 01/13/2013  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list
According to RedBook, Coinfacts, Heritage, CoinWeek and all other known major publications, the mintage for the 1836 Reeded Edge Half Dollar was 1,200:
http://www.coinfacts.com/half_dolla...arieties.htm

http://coinmintages.com/capped-bust...ge/#more-155

http://www.coinweek.com/us-type-coi...r-1836-1839/

While it is true that the mintage may be +/-300, there is no possiblity of it being any more than that. The steam press was not set up for minting until the end of the year and the 1836 reeded edge was more of a pattern coin. It was actually minted after production for the year had ended. The so-clled official mintage is actually 5,000, but, most of that 5,000 were part of the 1837 reeded mintage as they changed the date midstream. For that reaso, it is estimated that of those 5,000; 1,200 were minted with the 1836 date and 3,800 were minted with the 1837 date
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 Posted 01/13/2013  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list
g048406 and Tom B those are some beautiful half dollars.



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 Posted 01/13/2013  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list
Thanks Gyrene7483...I think TomB's 1838 is much nicer looking than mine, but, the 1836 is the only reeded I have right now. Alot of people think the reeded edges don't have the 'charm' of the earlier CBH's-end of an era kind of thing.......But, I think the reeded edges in high grade with nice toning are the prettiest coins ever..JMO
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 Posted 01/14/2013  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom B to your friends list
Sadly, the mintage number of 1,200 is more fantasy than reality. As is often the case, publications quote one another and errors are wildly propagated. Breen gave it his shot at 1,200 and this number was picked up as fact by the resources you have listed. They are all wrong. The question is what was the true mintage. Get a copy of the Reeded Edge half dollar book that Dick Graham and I published this past year and you will see a detailed analysis of how many we believe were struck. We are not the only ones who believe that the number is approximately 25,000. Indeed, no one who studies this field has given us any indication that they do not agree with the revised mintage figure.
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 Posted 01/14/2013  01:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coins4fun to your friends list
Walter Breen was a fraud, a convicted child molester..
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 Posted 01/14/2013  01:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list
"Walter Breen was a fraud, a convicted child molester."

I heard the same thing. Too bad we can't erase that degenerate from the coin industry.
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 Posted 01/14/2013  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Walter Breen was a fraud, a convicted child molester

No argument that he was a child molester, defend the fraud part of the statement. Yes some of his "facts" are not true. but can you show that these facts were made up with fraudulent intent?


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I heard the same thing. Too bad we can't erase that degenerate from the coin industry.

I've heard that sentiment expressed many times, but the coin hobby would be a much worse off if we did. For all the "made up" facts he is accused of, there would be a tremendous amount of other knowledge that we would not have if it wasn't for his work. The problem is most people can't separate the child molestation problem from everything else.
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