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Can I Interest Anyone With A 1963 Kennedy?

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 Posted 01/15/2013  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list
You can't get in trouble for creating a coin that doesn't exist. Can anyone say curiousity?
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 Posted 01/15/2013  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VetStudent to your friends list
thought this was going to be a thread about Daniel Carr's new 1963 and 1975 Kennedy overstrikes! (disappointing!)
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 Posted 01/15/2013  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mailman28 to your friends list
my first thought was that they would all be fake, then I checked the seller's location and was sure they were all fake, then I looked at the pic and thought maybe they were ok...glad to see it was just a mix up
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 Posted 01/16/2013  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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You can't get in trouble for creating a coin that doesn't exist. Can anyone say curiousity?
I disagree...

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...There is also a section under the counterfieting section of Title 18 that makes it illegal to make or possess a coin or disk in the likeness or similiartude of a US coin. So maybe you can't copy something that doesn't exist, but a 1963 Kennedy half sure strikes me as being similar to a 1964 Kennedy half. VERY similar, only difference being one digit in the date. That makes them illegal under the counterfeiting laws.
https://goccf.com/t/138619&whichpage=3#1243949
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 Posted 01/16/2013  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfhunter to your friends list
Defenitely a 40% silver 68 kennedy.

Yeah no more "fake coins" from that one guy that made the 64 franklin please.
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 Posted 01/16/2013  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j-win to your friends list
The only kennedy I don't have in my collection!
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 Posted 01/17/2013  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokeplayer101 to your friends list
Proabably just an altered 1968 Half. LOL.
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 Posted 01/21/2013  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dcarr to your friends list
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 Posted 01/21/2013  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dcarr to your friends list
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 Posted 01/21/2013  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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The reality is, the 1973 Hobby Protection Act (HPA) superceeds the earlier law. The HPA specifically allows numismatic replicas to be made.
It also requires the replicas to be "plainly and permanently marked 'copy'..."

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/15C48.txt
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 Posted 01/21/2013  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
And the HPA does not supersede the US Code, it is in addition to it.(The title 18 law is still current and on the books.) It provides a method of creating items that would be illegal under the US code by providing for the items to be marked. If the government chooses to they can still enforce the US code title 18 law against unmarked pieces.

As for the items made under the HPA I do find them to be a bit of a gray area. If the word COPY is not in the die or mold, technically all the pieces the company makes would be illegal from the time they are produced until they are counterstamped COPY. And the dies and molds they make them from would also be illegal. I think in these cases the government may be taking the intent of the companies into consideration. Since they know the company intends to mark the items with COPY, they let enforcement against the temporarily unmarked pieces, dies, and/or molds slide.
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LOL, someone's yella!
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 Posted 02/11/2013  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ramicio to your friends list
Hello. I was reading this thread as a non-member and I disagree that coins can't be made in the likeness of US coins that exist. I own a giant 2 oz. replica or a Mercury dime. It doesn't have a year nor any denomination listed. It's gigantic and could never be mistaken for a dime. It says that it's "2 troy oz. of 0.999 fine silver" or something like that. I also have a 1 oz. Morgan dollar replica that again doesn't have a year or denomination listed. If you don't know what you're looking for and don't realize that money has a year on it, it could be mistaken for a real one. It also says the usual "1 troy oz. 0.999 pure silver" line. None of them say copy. There are also replica coins from leftover dies from mints that people strike and sell. I really think it just doesn't matter to the government anymore in the case of silver because they don't make silver coins and melting silver coins was legalized in 1969, anyway.
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 Posted 02/11/2013  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list
Carr did create an overstamp 1963 Kennedy half.

https://goccf.com/t/141237
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