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A Newbie Starts His Collection (3 Coins)

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Netherlands
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 Posted 03/14/2013  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pliny_TheYounger to your friends list
Hi everyone, I'm new too but I've been collecting for a while now. I am particularly fond of silver coins as I think that they are on the whole better preserved. Also they tend to be where the better bargain are to be found as they can be difficult to photograph.
I love your Philip II, the portrait is very defined, how much did you pay for that one if you dont mind me asking?
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United Kingdom
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 Posted 03/14/2013  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MarvelousMarv to your friends list
I think you're right about the silver coins being hard to photograph.

It cost £17, which I think is quite reasonable. The picture was pretty poor so I think that helped me.
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Netherlands
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 Posted 03/14/2013  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pliny_TheYounger to your friends list
Blimey that is a good deal!
Little tip; it looks like its collected some stains over the years around Annona's body, id recommend letting it sit in a dish of olive oil for a 2-3 days then lightly brushing it with a tooth brush to make it that bit more clearer.
But that might just be me being a perfectionist!
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United States
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 Posted 03/14/2013  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Great start to a collection! I'm fairly new to ancients also and the guys here have helped me quit a bit. I've taken the collecting approach to Romans by getting one example of each Emperor. Seems to be the easiest way to go for me.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list
IMHO, it is the best way to go in the beginning. Starting with Roman Imperial, and collecting rulers. There are so many things to learn starting out. Roman coins might be the easiest for beginners.

Great starting coins! I don't even have a Julian II Bull reverse. Those can be expensive.

IGE: Yeah, your collection is starting to get really nice.
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United Kingdom
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 Posted 03/14/2013  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MarvelousMarv to your friends list
I'm thinking of taking that approach, Indian. I know there are a few that are really hard to get/expensive, but that is a problem for the future. For now there are plenty of choices, too many for my budget to keep up with, so I'm not worried about that. I don't see any reason to limit myself at the moment, I'm learning more about the coins and history as I go along so a wide approach is helping me in that respect.

Thanks for the tip Pliny, I may give it a go.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
Nice start. As to prices, these would be what I think is fair, based on what I've seen similar ones priced at:

1. A little tough, probably $70-80, (havent really been looking at these lately)
2. $35
3. $45-50

Not sure what these would be in pounds, sorry.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list
£17 for that Philip is a great price. The Licinius is the star of the lot though - It's a smashing coin

Do remember thought that Vcoins will be full retail price and it's really geared for people who are looking for a particular coin. If you are just dipping your toe in the water try and get to a fair and talk to a few dealers - tell them you are just starting out and they will give you great first hand advice (obviously in most cases geared towards a sale - but you'd be surprised how many just like to talk about coins.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MartiVltori to your friends list
My estimate

1. 70-80
2. 50
3. 35
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 Posted 03/14/2013  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MartiVltori to your friends list
And I agree the Licinius is the star. A very nice EF example.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
I bought my Julian before the 'internet' when things could really be hard to find. I can't remember what I paid but I know it was high. My estimates
.... and I am a 'cheapskate' !
Julian ..... $100 - 125
Licinius ....$35 - 40
Philip ......$25 - 30

Condition wise the Licinius is hands down the best coin. I collect 99% bronze coins for the very reason that 'Pliny' likes the silver. Finding a nice VF bronze with eye appeal can take time and effort. Bronze was what got used in everyday life and thus tends to be worn. Silver was very valuable in ancient times and like a $100 bill today tended to get put away and used only when necessary. But like a beautiful old statue in the park bronze can achieve a patina and a look that silver never can. I especially love the dark olive green hard patina that cover my 'favorite' bronzes. While your Julian isn't my kind of green it does have good patina ....... up my estimate $25 !
Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS
03/14/2013 6:42 pm
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 Posted 03/14/2013  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MarvelousMarv to your friends list
Thanks a lot for the kind words. I think I did pretty good deals, thankfully. Glad I'm on the right tracks. Not that money is everything, I'm more concerned with getting the best I can for the budget I have than saving a few ££, but its good to know all the same.

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 Posted 03/15/2013  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MartiVltori to your friends list

Quote:
Silver was very valuable in ancient times and like a $100 bill today tended to get put away and used only when necessary. But like a beautiful old statue in the park bronze can achieve a patina and a look that silver never can.


Agreed. Another thing that will drive the price up on bronzes, especially the big bronzes like dups and sesetrtii, is that although more were minted, less survive in good condition since they tend to corrode and get destroyed. Many more fine silver examples survive than bronze so they tend to be cheaper in comparable condition.
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 Posted 03/16/2013  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list
Great coins! Really like the Licinius! Congrats on them all!
I still need to get a Julian / bull too.
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 Posted 03/16/2013  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
love the julian bull coins!
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