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Just to add a little bit to what everyone else already said for PCGS right now the uncirc and proof W coins will just have a W on the label. The bullion ones will have a (W) or (S). If the letter stands alone its not the bullion version.
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as far as the sellout of the 2012w - are they both considered the same thing or different because of the lack of mint mark?
Also - is the burnished "W" part of that 2012 United States Mint Annual Uncirculated Dollar Coin Set (XA3) - or is it the one without the mint mark?
Edited by Indianaman79
03/19/2013 6:31 pm
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The coins without the mint marks, but designated (W) are different than the burnished W mint marked coins. The sell out is the Burnished W mint marked coin. As basebal said, the ones designated with the () are non mint marked coins and completely separate from the Burnished W coin.
Also as said, anything designated XXXXW is an actual W mint mark coin. You will not see the mint designate a coin (W). That is ONLY through thew grading services.
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Just to add one more little tidbit of info. The ASE bullion coins ( without the mint mark ) do not " sell out " , by act of congress, they are minted to demand for the full year. At the end of Dec or close to it, they start minting the 2013. As long as the demand is there during the year, they are obligated by law to keep minting them. Also, any Eagles in any sets sold by the mint are mint marked. The mint doe not sell bullion coins through their mint website. Your business must be an Authorized Purchaser for the U.S. Mint. You can then buy bullion coins in bulk from the mint and then resell to the public. Bullion cannot be bought direct from the mint |
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Sorry to throw a wrench in there Denco, but there is at least one exception. The 2011 ASE 25th Anniversary Set had two W's, a P, an S and one bullion Eagle. Edited by TJB17
03/19/2013 8:14 pm
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Sorry, I thought he said 2012  |
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One more difference between the (W) and the W: The bullion version ASE has a total mintage of around 40 MILLION The collector version W in 2011 was around 300 THOUSAND (less for the 2012 so far) With the bullion version the ONLY way you can know where the coin was minted is buy paying extra for a graded version. With the burnished collector coin it is quite obvious... The PCGS MS70 FS(W) is selling for $75-80 The PCGS MS70 FS W is selling for around $200 Edited by Foxwoods Man
03/20/2013 07:46 am
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The 2013 bullion version, even without the mint mark or graded versions you can see a difference between the (W) ASEs and the (S) ASEs. The (W) has a shiny look to them and the (S) has more of a frosted look to them. All of my graded non mint marked bullion ASEs look like my (S) mint marked bullion ASEs. Has anyone else noticed this with their bullion ASEs?
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Good timing...I was at a friends house yesterday and he showed me his (W) NGC ASE's. He has 5 of them (I'm not into the () thing)...3 look burnished and 2 definitely have a more shiny finish (all from the same Mint). This was discussed regarding other years of ASE's many times on different forums and the end consensus was that it was a die wear thing...the same thing happens with the bullion 5 ouncer's...some are proof like and some are not |
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I kind of like the burnished (frosty) look more than the shiny look for some reason. I guess they just kind of remind me more of the old MS Morgans. Thanks for the input Foxwoods.
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Ive definitely seen the shiny vs frosty for the 2013s, dont have a clue which mint any of them came from though so I cant comment on that theory. If I come across any of the graded ones in person I will definitely check them out to see
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you guys are awesome, thanks for the in depth info
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Quote:There are actually three different W ASE's for 2012 For the " hardcore " collector, there are actually 8 collectible versions of 2012 Eagles. The 2012 (w) Bullion The 2012 (s) Bullion The 2012 w Uncirculated ( burnished ) The 2012 w Proof The 2012 s Proof From The SF Anniversary Set The 2012 s Reverse Proof The 2012 s Proof From The Coin and Currency Set The 2012 w Proof From The Limited Edition Silver Proof Set. I know , before all the naysayers jump all over this, some are the same coins from different sets, I am talking a hardcore slabbed collection. Edited by denco7
03/20/2013 10:54 am
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I kind of like the burnished (frosty) look more than the shiny look for some reason. I guess they just kind of remind me more of the old MS Morgans. Thanks for the input Foxwoods. I agree with the ASE's but have you seen a DMPL MS 5 ouncer? Awesome looking coin....and those 1881S Morgans had some purdy DMPL's also |
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I have some ATB DMPLs, they are the close as you are going to get to a proof in that 5 oz. series I am afraid. Personally I would like to see them come out with a proof ATB puck. |
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