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 Posted 05/20/2013  03:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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I don't at all disagree with your take on the situation right now, but I still feel giving the analysts and philosophers their own playground would be a good idea.


Personally I think theres about the right amount of subforms if not maybe a few sub sub forums too many. Getting too fractured having to chase threads down everywhere that get moved ect isn't really a good thing in my opinion.

I honestly think its just nothing more than a lack of buying right now. There generally isn't really much new in the pure bullion world and right now all the ASE focus has shifted to the special set thats on sale right now as that threads on fire.

You mentioned that how to stack threads, but if people arent stacking at the moment there wont be any of those. Huge drops in prices arent going to lead to large amounts of new stackers either. When the price was on the way up or sitting in the 30s they were everywhere, but like everything else as soon as something starts losing value the fad for lack of a better term as worn off.

Think about beanie babies, they used to sell for thousands when they were hot and people all over the place were getting in thinking they would make money, as soon as people started losing money no one knew came in and it dried up. Thats not to say no one is buying coins but good number of stackers are collectors as well and have turned their focus more towards numismatic items with the price action.

Its one of those human nature things where when things are at an all time high everyone wants a piece of it which is how a lot of people get burned on all kinds of investments. When things are sliding and youre losing money just like in stocks everyone wants out and in the case of stacking only the most dedicated of stackers remain at that point.

Not to mention there was about 2-3 years of heavy stacking going on. We know that part of the population has no interest in coins or stacking which already gives a limited base. Then we know from there the constant stackers are an even smaller percentage. With 2-3 years of heavy buying theres a good number of people that just reached a point that said I have enough. Maybe some got more into coins and went to numismatic as well. The SHTF stacker though presumably has a goal they wanted to reach that they would get to one day.

Then throw on top of all of that the fact that a lot of bullion in a lot of ways is becoming more numismatic in nature aside from the ASEs and Maples. Take the Britannicas for instance, while technically a bullion round nothing about them is priced like one which gives a limited base of what can be talked about. ASEs and Maples from a bullion standpoint havent and probably wont change so theres only so much to talk about. Also like you mentioned there are a lot of threads on how to stack that can easily be found if someone looks.

Id also add that the price threads have always been here, the only reason they seem more abundant is because the buying threads disappeared. The main price threads been going on for about 3 months so its not exactly fresh and really with the downward movement price is the thing that most people probably think about first right now and imo is the most interesting part of whats happening with pms.

I will concede there may be a few more of them from people posting in the other forums and getting it moved here which is one of the downfalls of having all the different forums. New members dont know where to look and you get a ton of duplicate threads that end up getting moved. It doesn't bother me just kind of is what it is. I cant remember if you post in the threads or not but the ASE set thread and the 5 oz puck thread does occasionally get metal price talk too so some has spilled over into other topics as well.

If the price took a massive upswing though all the threads would turn to where to buy who has the best prices ect like during the sell out. The threads really are nothing more than a result of what the metals are currently doing and how people are responding to that. Its not just new people either, some is long time members who have reevaluated the market the new new movements and adjusted their actions accordingly to what they feel is best for them. Other coin forums PMs sections are pretty identical to this one as well for whats currently being discusses with some taking world politics into account more than others.
Edited by basebal21
05/20/2013 03:32 am
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 Posted 05/20/2013  03:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Afghanistan sounds like just the place


Its really easy not to click on things since none of the titles are misleading
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Canada
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 Posted 05/20/2013  06:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list
Heard somewhere that the Gold drop is pegged to the Japanese Yen(purposely/manipulated) , as the Yen drops so will gold/silver, possibly to the $800 to $900 dollar range, just a rumor but could be a possibility.Then again might be a bunch of bunk...
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 Posted 05/20/2013  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list

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I love contemplating my navel, when it comes to predicting PM prices in the future.


I can't wait to retell that to hubby. He says I crack him up with my middle of the day texts of "Gold is at xxxx!" and "Silver is at xxxx!". I would like to be a stacker but do not have the funds nor the stomach for it so I silently watch in envy those who do.

If you would like to consider me a newbie to the metals forum since I only lurk, you might be interested to know that I tend to not read most of the predictions. Only the ones that are backed up with verifiable facts are the threads I peruse and even then, I am skeptical most of the time. I tend to be cautious by nature and think that no matter what is posted, a person's tendencies will take over.
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 Posted 05/20/2013  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

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Heard somewhere that the Gold drop is pegged to the Japanese Yen(purposely/manipulated) , as the Yen drops so will gold/silver, possibly to the $800 to $900 dollar range, just a rumor but could be a possibility.Then again might be a bunch of bunk...

Your theory is a good as anyone else's Mate and it wasn't long winded either
Good on ya Mate


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Its really easy not to click on things since none of the titles are misleading

I was quite serious with that suggestion.
if the insurgents had to listen to this waffle for long enough they would run out of the hills with their fingers in their ears begging to surrender.
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 Posted 05/20/2013  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list
I think BB's pretty much dead on. When prices were ascending I saw new posters coming in everyday by the droves. I, myself, used to post here more, but in truth, I simply get bored easily and moved on to other interests (like football, fishing and the fortean). When I noticed silver falling, I came back on to see what people were saying on the matter and opted to stay a while.

Even though this topic was probably a reaction to Yup's somewhat prolific and overly repetitive musings on PM price fluctuation, I personally see no harm in it, but precisely the opposite. He's willingly sharing his opinion on a subject that's doubtlessly near and dear to many members' hearts: making money off the sale of silver or the inverse, buying it at a good price. Getting someone's analysis on where prices may be heading seems pretty germane, right? So IMO, his posts may be a bit bombastic and mildly confrontational at times and fragile feathers have been ruffled, I'm sure, but nothing that crosses any line or CCF taboo that I'm aware of. In short, no one's forcing anyone to read his posts so what's the harm in letting the guy proselytize?
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05/20/2013 10:39 am
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 Posted 05/20/2013  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doug58s to your friends list
I agree with the others - the topic today isn't about what to buy where and what prices are - it is where is it heading and when will it stabilize... so there are bound to be pontifications - historical references and all sorts of soothsaying...

Once the PM joyride ends... we can get back to buying!
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Australia
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 Posted 05/20/2013  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Afganistan?
I was there, way back in 1970. It was much more peaceful then.
I was on my way by road from India to Europe, in our own double deck bus.

That was before they started cutting each other up.

They only wanted your left ear, then.
Now, it's your right ear, and your wild front ear as well.


I have but only one piece of bullion. That is a one ounce platinim Koala, bought for $500, in about 1997. I still have it.
It has sailed clean through all of the PM volatility.
Is it now worth more than inflation price increases? Dunno. Don't really care.
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 Posted 05/20/2013  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spikey Norman to your friends list
Thanks for starting this topic Libertad, I joined this site because it is a COIN community not a market trading site, not a stackers site (albeit some here surely do stack as well), not a site to show egos (we all have one but most don't feel a need to caress theirs on an internet site on a daily basis) and certainly not an 'investment advice' site.

Whether a coin is worth more or less now than when I bought it because it contains precious metals is neither here nor there to me, I bought it because I wanted it and deemed whatever price it cost at the time appropriate and fair. For me this hobby is about the coins first and foremost, what some are made of is purely secondary.

Norm
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 Posted 05/20/2013  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
You all can and did join for whatever reason and that reason is your own....

I agree that when pmz were pushing up there was much more optimism and now like mentioned it is all about is it going north or south and I am guilty of that myself....

Most you guys love coins and pmz for the pure love of the hobby and I more then respect that but to me it has always just been a tool I could play middleman with and just a physical meaningłess metal which in bigger picture is nowhere as important to the temporary or the organic. We are all born to die so I cherish my time with friends and family most importantly as I know nothing lasts forever and separation is inevitable....

Everything else is just finding a way to make enough to keep family safe and fed, everything else is just kiliin time inbetween....
Edited by Silverhawk74
05/20/2013 11:16 am
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 Posted 05/20/2013  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list
My suggestions for people that don't like the current hot topic on this forum:

1. If you are not interested in a topic don't read the thread
2. If you are interested in a topic, start a thread talking about it. If you want to see pictures of coins, take some pictures and post them. Start a topic telling people what you collect and why. Stop complaining that others aren't talking about what you are interested in and do something to change the focus.

As Baseball has stated, when PM's were on their way up there was no shortage of "look what I got" and "how high will PM's go" threads. Now that PM's are on the way down the big topic is "how low will it go".
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 Posted 05/20/2013  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list
If the moderators had a problem with the "advice" threads, wouldn't they shut them down? I just don't understand people. Like Hawk said, life is short. Lighten up a little. Don't sweat the small stuff.
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 Posted 05/20/2013  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
If anybody recalls the History channel special about the men who built America....

Was in not Vanderbilt that saw an oppurtunity when the railroads took a dive and was the only one buying when everyone else was headed for the door, which allow him the oppurtunity to buy all the UNWANTED STOCK (pm metaphor duh lol) which in turn allowed him to corner market and build a railroading empire....

I have less then 1 oz of silver in house and as many know along the last three or four years I have made a little verses losing much in pmz and have had a ball doing it along the way. Wouldn't matter to me if silver hit 1 buck tommorrow other then I now have the best buying window in history staring at me, which when history is said and done may be the days we live today....

Fortunately due to my grandfather slaving his life aways and saving every penny he ever made, I will now receive a small house which yields 500 a month in rent and enough cash to buy a place of my own and ERASE ALL debt to zero....

At that time when I have my own home, I will then look back to stocking silver once again and hope it remains as low or drops even more....

I prefer when all the sheep get side tracked as it makes getting what I want that much easier and that much cheaper....
Edited by Silverhawk74
05/20/2013 11:25 am
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 Posted 05/20/2013  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
@Spikey Norman: I appreciate that. Yes, we are not traders trading in imaginary things. Bartering for tangible objects and labor is true trading.

@JSH: Your #1 point. I agree with your point, but sometimes it's hard to tell other people to just shut up on the internet because it just adds fuel to the trolling flame. As if they listen anyways. It just pains me to sit back and let other people swallow what is being said from such a stubborn poster.

@Yup: Uh-huh, this thread was inspired by you. I would've taken your advice much more willingly if you hadn't said that USA is #1 and will never cease to be THE power in the world. That is short-sighted and lacks a human quality. I staunchly defy nationalities and pride in only one thing, for that is religion at its core, in fact it can be closely tied in with a marriage of state and religion. That one tiny slip made me ignore everything you say. That, and your horrible English skills turn me away from believing anything you say. I had to say this. And this is my thread. If you've noticed at all I've long since abandoned adding anything meaningful to your own.

So what I am saying is that don't believe anybody. I am always perceptive to change in thought because who can truly believe that they have a single original idea in their head? Every idea is borrowed from somebody else, whose ideas are borrowed from somebody else, et cetera a la broken cellphone.

I'm not short-term profiteering (trading, pfft), either. I accumulate, add labor to the material, and then hide it in plain view.
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 Posted 05/20/2013  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list
I wasn't telling anyone to shut up. I said don't read the topic if you aren't interested in the topic. Life is too short to read and then complain about things you aren't interested in.
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