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Is NNC A Real TPG?

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 Posted 06/03/2013  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Yes they are real, just not good. No there is no "governing body" for TPG's and they do have to stand on their own reputation. Also don't trust the TPG's for attributions with the possible exception of SEGS. Even the top two companies blow the attributions too often to be trusted. You MUST verify all attributions yourself.
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 Posted 06/03/2013  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
Hi Conder101- Agree totally. The 1834 N-5 looks right except the wear on the obverse is much greater than the reverse. I'm kinda' joking about it being two coins glued together, but that might be the case!
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 Posted 06/03/2013  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
NNC is actually an SPG (Same Party Grading) In order to qualify as a TPG you can not sell coins. I may be mistaken, but isn't Robert Johnson both the president of NNC grading and Centsles on ebay?
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 Posted 06/03/2013  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
If your do a Google search using TPG's for a subject, you would see there are lots and lots and lots of them. Possibly even more if you include the basement TPG ers. Lots of people use them since they do look authentic and professional. Easy way to sell almost anything.
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 Posted 06/03/2013  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I may be mistaken, but isn't Robert Johnson both the president of NNC grading and Centsles on ebay?


You're correct.
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 Posted 06/03/2013  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list
Aside from over-grading, would you trust the authenticity of coin which are slabbed by NNC?
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 Posted 06/03/2013  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
Well based on the example I saw listed yesterday where an 1839/6 large cent was clearly not an 1839/6 large cent, I'd say no.
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 Posted 06/04/2013  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
I do now. I'm also interested in any R-4 or scarcer middle date large cent.
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 Posted 06/05/2013  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Aside from over-grading, would you trust the authenticity of coin which are slabbed by NNC?


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Well based on the example I saw listed yesterday where an 1839/6 large cent was clearly not an 1839/6 large cent, I'd say no.

That has nothing to do with authenticity. The coin is misattributed as a 39/6 but that doesn't mean the coin is a fake (not authentic).
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 Posted 06/05/2013  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
Yes, technically that is correct. It looked authentic to me. Still just as bad. Grading is somewhat subjective, but attribution mistakes should not happen.
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 Posted 06/06/2013  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Agreed, but unfortunately they happen all too often.
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 Posted 06/06/2013  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list

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In order to qualify as a TPG you can not sell coins.


But you CAN be the one that authenticates the exact coins that you sell. Imagine you own a unique error coin and another one like it comes in the door to be certified. Can you say "questionable authenticity" ....
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 Posted 06/06/2013  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I have purchased a couple NNC slabs when they were a specific VAM I was looking for and only in one case was the coin problem free but it was a lesser grade than they had it labeled as (which I knew when purchasing). At least two of the others had some pretty major rim damage that the foam insert that NNC uses in their slabs hid until it was cracked out. So please beware that the inserts they use will definitely hide any rim damage until its to late and the coin is cracked out to where you can't send it back for a refund
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 Posted 06/06/2013  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list
NNC = Robert Johnson = centsles = self slabber = raw problem coin seller.
He is immunune from ebay sanctions as he defeated ebay in court:
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/fl...0042/209017/
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 Posted 06/06/2013  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
That doesn't address the outcome - if he won, why hasn't ebay changed the policy?
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