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1934 Washington 25c Variety Redue Pics

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 Posted 09/29/2013  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joey to your friends list
Seems I'm getting some different opinions here. It's all good. Then I apologize for the pics.. I've added a few to try and show more detail and better angles. I am working on lighting and distsance to get better with this. Being able to provide for others to view. It is a little difficult. Seems some difference on what others need to see what they want.

I can assure you there are markis on the chin, nose that show well. But I can't seem to catch yet. At least on these series of pics.. There is one member that piocked up on it right away on the possible $300 plus variety. This is the one I was thinking. I have to check google and find the related # agin. Anybody know of hand by vhance?

There is also marks on bottom of ponytail and two that seem to connect with each other just to the right of ponytail on the rim and flashes to the other point to its left towards the bottom of the neck.

As is though, can't you guys see at least the action around date & espesially IGWT. plus the area between the 'E & R' in LIBERTY? figured these were clear enough to see in these pics.

And wait a minute... what about the areas around the nech bottom and up and aroun=d to the nose. Seems to be alot of seperation or certain activity in this ares. Also i'll work om getting the marks to show on the tip of nose and chin. I'm positive of these and would like them to be seen. Thanks for taking part and to hear more.
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 Posted 09/29/2013  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list
I'm not seeing anything on this coin that would lead me to believe its a DDO. Not even in the places you said to look, date, IGWT etc... Looks like a normal quarter to me. Maybe with some more detailed pics but idk.
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 Posted 09/29/2013  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list
joey. I agree with Jayman931 in not seeing a DDO. Like most newbies, you want so much for your coin to be the error or variety you think it is. There are untold resources on the net, including this forum, with descriptions and photos of any error or variety coin you can think of. Study them and eventually you will be able to tell for yourself. Meanwhile rely on the judgement of the contributors to this forum.
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 Posted 09/30/2013  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joey to your friends list
It's ok But, are we looking at the same Pics? P wouldn't have posted this if I didn't think it was or had the possiblity, I have looked caregully enough and have the understanding if the doubled die, And it only takes one mark really to justify a doubled die, But this exceedds that. No offense or non taken here, Why you csannot see the activity inbetween thr letters in Libety or IGWT shows on the letters and around.thikenong the letters, O'm looking at the samw pics as you and can see what i;m describing, And the ;line jetting out of his mouth are made up of t hese marks, As I have seen this activity in other type of varieties. Written to say this part of the DDO, But the smaller hidden shinny marks you are probaslly looking for are as I've dstated in the tip of nose and chin/ I'll try to get in better lighting and hopefullt get them to show themselves to you, I'll try to addd to this later. I need test lighting ansd see whats works first, then I;ll add. But I am still wondering you cannot see the acctivities between e and r in liberty, As I surely see action that is concidered Dbling This alone on the tip of the out strecthing leg of the R is usually considered as such,

In IGWT and the neck up through the spitting line from his face should be enough alone to satisfy the DDO. The 4 in the date to the 4;s right side? See there. Maybe there you csn see, As activity is also there, I just looked at the coin itself. On to do a couple of posts I need to get on. But work on getting updates to this asap todasy or evening.


Oh ys almost forgot. I posted this in the grading forum. And there withoout any solicitation. A member in his own wrote "Where did yiu get that $300 plus quatrter?Which implies he sees onhis own the variety in question. And also knows the valie involved. Was I thankful to atleast see thst. As I was beginning to wonder.
I hope the spellimg is all good. it;s to late and I am to tired to go back and see. Later
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 Posted 09/30/2013  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list
Plenty of people posts pictures of coins they think are doubled dies. None of us said it definitely was not a DD we simply said from the pictures provided we are not seeing a dd. Some very knowledgeable people have responded with the same responses.


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Oh ys almost forgot. I posted this in the grading forum. And there withoout any solicitation. A member in his own wrote "Where did yiu get that $300 plus quatrter? Which implies he sees on his own the variety in question


Think you need to reread what he said....He asked where did you get the $300 figure from. You said in your original post it was worth $300. No one to my viewing of the threads said it was worth $300 besides you.

I'm not sure what your photo set up is but if you get better pictures you will get more and better responses. Could it be a DD? Yes. Can we tell from your pictures? No. I would say try to get some better pictures. There are some tips to coin photography in the photography section of this site. You would be amazed at some of the pictures members here take with a loupe and a camera phone.
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09/30/2013 11:59 am
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 Posted 09/30/2013  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
I can't even see MD. I've looked and looked.
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 Posted 09/30/2013  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list
From the 10 pictures posted from the OP all I'm seeing is Machine Doubling at very best and that's being generous.Given condition of coin I'd give it $3.95 silver melt value at today's fair market value.Even if it turned out to be a DD I'd say 5 10 bucks because of condition which is below Good-
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 Posted 10/01/2013  05:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justin3651 to your friends list
"Oh ys almost forgot. I posted this in the grading forum. And there withoout any solicitation. A member in his own wrote "Where did yiu get that $300 plus quatrter?Which implies he sees onhis own the variety in question. And also knows the valie involved. "
where did that happen exactly? if I go to your profile page I can see a list of your posts and visit them and I did and no one ever said that or offered anything other than what people on this thread have said that they are having trouble seeing the doubling on the coin.
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 Posted 10/07/2013  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joey to your friends list
I really do appreciate the comments and interjections. And I apologize for the poor pics.. I am constantly working on them getting better. And they will.

But what I do not get or understand. Is the wolf like members nready to pounce on any and all mistakes or learning curves! Which all must go through to learn correctly. As I am sure all of you and I did. Not sure sometimes if the veterans when they say "I don't see it". If they mean it really not the one. Or they are saying in a outside way for me to provide better pictures for members to view in order to evaluate. And they are seeing what I am presenting. But not willing to say yet until I provide the better pictures.

Which in this case holds true. As I've gone back and looked hard at this coin and the true marks are still there. And I see them even stronger. As I have found a better way to enlarge them for viewing and I will present them here soon. For all to see. I'll stick my neck out so to speak.

On the tip of nose and the chin are obvious. And in IGWT and neck and the P-tail to the rim are also ther4e. And of coarse, Lib. between the E and R. I was wondering even if they are poor pics, Why experienced experts could not see them. Cause I can. And I am experienced and getting better. But no means an expert yet. I figure then if the pics are so poor that they can't really be seen. An expert would know what is to some sort anyway. But would still need to see clearly to be sure, But have an idea? Yes I think so.

I value all comments and participation. It is the path of learning. I could still be proven wrong. But I still have enough info. to keep me involved to show and prove my point. I know what I am seeing. Just haven't been able to convey them yet. Hopefully the new pics will.

And if the pics prove me wrong I'll accept without hesitation and on to the next one.

And to the $300 comment. You are right. My mistake. On the comment that was really here in this post not in the grading post. Guess I was really tired. I got confused and stated it wrong in my defense. Apologies.But I did get the info. when I searched Google on the variety when I first purchased. There is a variety in this date like this I'm pretty sure. For this grade. Fine to very fine.

With respect, this is not just a Good grade at best. Is a Mid. to high fine easy. Have crossed checked with my ANA grading standards book on hand. Have to check the grading post. But I think a member mentioned in their opinion it was VF. And "Nice Find". If I remember. then again I could be wrong. I'll check. Not perfect I am.
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 Posted 11/17/2013  04:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joey to your friends list
Redemption and an Update on
1934 Washington 25c DDO.

f-12 1934 25C DDO FS-101 (FS-009)

I've been working on w3ays to enlarge imag4es without to mush quality lose until I get a new camera or better phone cam that works well enough/

By using Image stretch in Windows viewer and Picasa. I think I have found a way to present and document my coins much better until a new pic set up.

This should show what I could not before. I am able to point out the key points and document better.

I hope it works and you all check more easy.

Cleaned up new pics and made larger for presentation.

I really hope it works. I also checked against PCGS COinfacts to help with .

As I noticed before The marks sere visible in the spots mentioned, Just needed a closer cleaner look at. I was looking at the pic and wondering "why can these be seen?" I realized that now I was viewing them on Picasa editor. and after enlarging. Cause they're right there.

1934 25C DDO FS-101 (FS-009) Grade 12 $130 grade 20 $185 Grade 30 $230

f-12 1934 25C DDO FS-101 (FS-009)



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 Posted 11/17/2013  04:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
That is most definitely not FS-101 which is a very obvious doubled die with a huge spread that is visible even in very low grades. All of your arrows are pointing to damage and contact marks, not any kind of doubling.
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 Posted 11/17/2013  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list
With biokemist
The new pictures are much better and confirm it's not a Doubled die.It's just a worn down beat up Silver quarter with a melt value of $3.76
Here's a real 1934 Doubled die FS-101 I found on ebay.There's no comparison. There are several more on ebay in better condition but this one match's the condition of your coin

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-P-Wash...em3a85dc657b

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11/17/2013 09:47 am
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 Posted 11/17/2013  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joey to your friends list
Thanks Jasper!

Figured as much. As the member pointed on reply just before, looks like not from contact in most pointed out areas. Area between the ER in Liberty looks like real activity? Does it not?

But the area around the mouth, nose and p-tail possibly genuine? Any ideas? And activity outward from the nose towards the rim? And thanks for all comments.

was really about testing the pics. Hoping that a member who had commented before would see and notice. You did. Now I can apply to better material> Thanks again!
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 Posted 11/17/2013  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list

Quote:
Area between the ER in Liberty looks like real activity? Does it not?



Real activity? Yes! Very real contact marks
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 Posted 11/17/2013  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list
much better pics!

Ya unfortionitely definitely not a FS-101, just damage, ware & contact marks. Worth basically what you paid for it.. Which is great, at least you didn't buy it as a FS-101.
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