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MS-70 Or Acetone For Kennedy Half's

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 Posted 11/18/2013  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nlp coins to your friends list
The MS70 should do fine with the haze. I've used it on clads before.
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 Posted 11/18/2013  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinDan98 to your friends list
Isn't MS70 a grade?!
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 Posted 11/18/2013  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
@penny

yes it is, its also a coin cleaner for lack of a better word.

http://www.amazon.com/MS-70-oz-Coin...p/B000YQBZPE

Im pretty sure that links it. Not sure if coins would grade or not after it but I have heard that it will change the color of copper coins.
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 Posted 11/18/2013  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Only one of those two substances is an inert chemical, and only one of the two does anything about PVC plasticizer outgassing.

MS70 is a cleaning agent. Any coin you use it on is then cleaned, by definition. The manufacturer calls it a "coin cleaner."

So you can figure what my opinion is of it.
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 Posted 11/18/2013  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Is it more harmful than dipping a Morgan ?
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 Posted 11/19/2013  01:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Definitely try acetone FIRST! MS70 would be a last resort IMO. Acetone will not damage the coins but I can't say the same for MS70, so you have nothing to lose with acetone.
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 Posted 11/19/2013  03:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Is it more harmful than dipping a Morgan ?


No, not even close. MS70 is essentially soap and water, understanding I won't recommend that for a coin either. The Kennedys here need to go into acetone first, to ensure that what Pipewelder is seeing isn't PVC. Beyond that, I suspect any further step will do more harm than good, and if acetone won't remove it, MS70 doesn't stand a chance.
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 Posted 11/19/2013  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pipewelder to your friends list
I did a lot or reading about what to use.. These 2 always pop up.. I just really want to know what the LCS used, he made that proof POP and look new...
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 Posted 11/19/2013  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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No, not even close. MS70 is essentially soap and water,


MS70 is a detergent and water-based cleaner. It is fairly safe as cleaners go, but should only be used as a last resort when water, acetone and xylene fail.
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 Posted 11/20/2013  05:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
I have dipped plenty of clad coins and never had one turn brown. First I have heard that one.

But yes, acetone first.
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 Posted 11/20/2013  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pipewelder to your friends list
I used acetone on one of the proofs. It cleaned the the milky haze off. Coins still a champagne tone but I can live with that I guess.
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 Posted 11/20/2013  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pipewelder to your friends list
Ok I could not resist. I bought some MS70 and used it on a few old circulated Franklin halfs I got in a 90% lot... holy crap that stuff works.. So I tried it on one of the already cleaned but toned Kennedy proofs and MAN what a shine. Look brand new.
It did nothing but improve the look of the coin.
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 Posted 11/20/2013  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
.....would love to see it. Before and after would've been sweet.
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 Posted 11/21/2013  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pipewelder to your friends list
Ill do a before and after on a few in a few days... Several of the proofs have that haze/film that need to come off before they go in an album.
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 Posted 11/24/2013  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Here is a thread showing before and after on a roll-found JFK proof (clad) and MS70. Acetone did nothing to it.
https://goccf.com/t/138854
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