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In Spain we consider that the midle age starts with the fall of Rome in 472 and ends with the discovery of America in 1492...
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Russian Federation
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Purely numismatically, it might be fitting to say that the Middle Ages started with Anastasius' reform in 498 and ended with creation of the Joachimsthaler in 1486.
But we'd probably need a slightly later bound on the second side (can anyone think of a decent one?), or a lot of people will end up with no medieval coins (or with their only medieval coins being Byzantine) even if they thought they've been collecting medieval coins already.
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Serbia (Srbija)
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In Spain we consider that the midle age starts with the fall of Rome in 472 and ends with the discovery of America in 1492... Fall of Rome was in 476, but anyway we need here numismatical boundaries of Middle Ages and ever historical ones are not fix dates. There are many events that can be taken as beginning and end of one era. As ancientcoinguy said numismatical boundaries would be hard to determine especially world wide. Ive seen Persian, Afghani and Indian coins from 18-19 century and they look same (same/similar minting technique) as medieval coins. Edited by mvojnovic
03/14/2016 07:50 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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One of the best references for medieval coins is
'Coins of Medieval Europe', by Philip Grierson.
Covers the period of the Fifth Century to the Fifteenth Century, inclusive.
He has quoted over 160 bibliographical references to back up his research.
Over 500 high quality pictures of coins in text, mostly both sides, bracteates single sided.
Krause takes over with the pictures from 1600 onwards.
Sear covers the period from ancient Greece to where Grierson starts.
Stephen Album covers Islamic issues, Schjoth covers Chinese issues Vcoins and Wildwinds Greek and Roman, not to forget Zeno.ru.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I like this thread .....  I need to pick up some of these |
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  Charles V 1515-1556 Belgium Holy Roman Emperor CAROLVS DG ROM IM |
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United States
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A penny a day keeps the Viking away! Lincoln, Anglia Aethelred II The Unready (r. AD 978 - 1016) Moneyer Dreng AR Penny (s. AD 997-1003) 20.4mm x 1.30 grams Obverse: Bare-headed bust left +ÆÐELRÆD REX ANGL Reverse: Voided long cross with triple-crescent ends and pellet at center +DRENG MOmega;O LINC Ref: North #774, Coins of England #1151, Note: VF+ Strike weakness on obverse center. Viking Dangeld. Scandinavian moneyer. ex. Agora, ex. CNG  Edited by Ancientnoob
03/22/2016 10:37 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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now that's a cool medieval coin AN!
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Serbia (Srbija)
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Well ive been absent from this forum for a long time, and unfortunately ive been absent from coin collecting as well due to work. So finally got some time on my hands during holidays. Ill share with you my latest bought coin. Noting special because of its condition.    Please dont let this thread (topis) die ------------ Forgot to mention its Serbian medieval coin but due to its condition its hard to attribute it. Possibly one of the following kings: Uros I (1243-1276), Dragutin (1276-1282), Milutin (1282-1321). Edited by mvojnovic
04/17/2017 12:01 pm
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United Kingdom
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Since there few price catalogues for these types of coins, or they're so costly that only major dealers can afford to have a full stock, it would be instructive to know how much people paid and when (roughly, if it's not recently) you bought it.
I'll try to do that myself.
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Serbia (Srbija)
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@Pertinax
Yes its true. Much easier to collect 1600 onwards with all the Kraus catalogs.
However, prices wary from place to place. I bet same coin wont worth same in every country.
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However, prices wary from place to place. I bet same coin wont worth same in every country. mvojnovic, You're quite right but some information on price is better than none at all. The Krause values for modern French and 19th century British are completely whacky, in my opinion. I just wish I could buy modern French for the values stated in the Krause catalogue, and the values for 19th century British are mostly understated. I've wondered for some time whether Krause actually look at non-US dealers lists ? Do they look at dealers lists at all ? Edited by Pertinax
04/17/2017 5:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Are Krause prices for 19th and 20th century Serbian coins accurate. If not, how do they differ from prices in Serbia?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I have never bothered much with Krause prices.
Sometimes, I will add a compounded inflation factor them to get a bit of an idea.
With the internet, current pricing is often found to be much more accurate elsewhere.
I DO have Krause catalogs covering the last four centuries, but mainly for the photographic record. With patience, they are a very useful tool in the identification of later medieval European coins.
The coins are the hardware that have been left to us by cultures long since gone.
I have seven other specialist books that have at least a major part of their content covering medieval European and British Isles coinages, as well as ten others specializing on European medieval culture in various aspects.
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Serbia (Srbija)
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@Pertinax Kraus prices are not accurate at all. For me they are just approximate indicator of coins mintage, rarity and value. But even with that you have to be careful. For example (its a bit oftopic) there is Hungarian coin in Kraus catalog 50 filler 1948 (km536) mintage 15 mil. (!) and value from 100$ in F and 225 in XF ?! Error in catalog or deliberate wrong estimate ? And that wrong estimate repeats on and on in every Kraus issue. I myself had bunch of these coins go through my hands in past few years. And thats something that just does not happen with 100$ coins regardless of your location. If I knew that I could sell them for Kraus prices id be collecting just them and become rich in few years  Ive seen that some collectors have been misled by this Kraus estimate and they started asking big prices on internet auctions but soon after prices started going down, yet still not in resalable estimate for a 15 mil. mintage coin. Price of a coin is relative thing which is determined with mutual agreement between seller and buyer, and every price you hear is just an estimate, an opinion if you like. Ofcourse I agree that we need to share this info amongs each other especialy for medievel and ancient coins without any (or much) catalog estimate. Dont forget that coin collecting is a business for some. Big business of making money (the one in circulation ). So some prices in catalog (including Kraus) might be deliberately blown up so someone can make money of it. Edited by mvojnovic
04/18/2017 10:53 am
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