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Is This Ebay Gold Dollar Legit?

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 Posted 12/31/2013  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Looks like yet ANOTHER book I'll have to get...


....and then you wake up one morning to realize you own more books than coins, and one whole wall of your study is coin books. Awful, ain't it?
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 Posted 12/31/2013  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ambro51 to your friends list
"A Reference to Federal Gold Coinage" Vol 1. Paul Taglione is a really difficult to find book but very cerebral and an intense exploration of GDs by date mm. By all means get Bowers second edition as the condition census, auction records and "prices" are updated. Gold dollar references are limited and most out of date. A subscription to PCGS online Coinfacts is a big help.
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 Posted 12/31/2013  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ambro51 to your friends list
A bit of eye candy, sold some time back. Is-This-Ebay-Gold-Dollar-Legit? Is-This-Ebay-Gold-Dollar-Legit?
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....and then you wake up one morning to realize you own more books than coins, and one whole wall of your study is coin books. Awful, ain't it?


I can see my situation heading in that direction, yes... ;)

ambro -- OK, I'll get the second edition of Bowers' book. I'll also look into PCGS online Coinfacts...I think Coinfacts used to be separate from PCGS, but now the Coinfacts website refers you to PCGS, if I recall correctly...
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 Posted 12/31/2013  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sgoss66 to your friends list
ambro -- wow, that's a NICE one...was that yours? I bet it fetched a "pretty penny..."

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 Posted 12/31/2013  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sgoss66 to your friends list
Well, I may have just had a "successful" purchase...

I'll post back, with picture and details, once I get the coin...

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 Posted 12/31/2013  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ambro51 to your friends list
Yes that 60D was PCGS AU53 which I also submitted to CAC and it stickered. It's sale partially paid for a 1785 Vermont Immune Columbia.
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 Posted 01/01/2014  01:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sgoss66 to your friends list
ambro -- wow! That's a terrific coin! And, I'm not familiar with a "Vermont Immune Columbia..."

Do you have a pic of THAT?

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ambro -- wow! That's a terrific coin! And, I'm not familiar with a "Vermont Immune Columbia..."

Do you have a pic of THAT?


I'd like to see that, as well - near as I can tell, only about twenty people in the world can ever own one at one time....
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 Posted 01/01/2014  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ambro51 to your friends list
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 Posted 01/01/2014  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sgoss66 to your friends list
Wow...that is amazing! What is the history of that type of coin?

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Wow...that is amazing! What is the history of that type of coin?


During this period, my ancestors in Vermont (my family goes back three centuries in Vermont) were an independent Republic, having fought their way free from New York and New Hampshire. Vermont was to become the 14th State in 1791.

The Republic commissioned coinage, produced by Reuben Harmon of Rupert and (for a couple of years) a mint at Machin's Mills, Newburgh, NY (where this coin originated).

I exaggerated slightly in my last post - there are thirty-some known of this variety, called Ryder-1, although since so many are in museum collections, few private collectors will ever get to own one. As such, it's an extremely important coin, and I'd be surprised if ambro51 doesn't consider it one of the highlights of his collection.
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 Posted 01/01/2014  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sgoss66 to your friends list
Holy SMOKES, Dave. I didn't know ANY of that history. When you say the Republic of Vermont "fought their way free" from New York and New Hampshire, what do you mean by that? They actually "fought" to become separate from New York and New Hampshire (who, I presume you are saying) claimed that portion of the country as part of their respective states?

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 Posted 01/01/2014  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Vermont was "officially" acquired by the British, from the French, in the Treaty of Paris in 1763 although they'd been sniping at each other over the territory for at least thirty years by that point. Both New York and New Hampshire claimed the area; Benning Wentworth - the Governor of the New Hampshire territory and namesake of my home town of Bennington - made land grants to his constituents in the area so that many of Vermont's original settlers were from the east.

New York took exception to this (given a favorable decision by the Crown), making its' own land grants and ultimately declaring New Hampshire's grants invalid. Ethan Allen and his Boys weren't having that, being holders of New Hampshire grants; they organized into a militia, several hundred strong, and became the de facto government/controlling force in the area. Not much actual "fighting" happened, since the Green Mountain Boys were so strong; we Vermonters just like to think that we fought and won when in reality we were too bad for them to mess with.
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 Posted 01/01/2014  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sgoss66 to your friends list
That's fascinating, Dave. Thanks for sharing that...history is SO interesting, when you dig into it...

(too bad for them to mess with...that cracked me up! :) )

Thanks!

Steve
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