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1863 Indian Head Cent - Shattered Die

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 Posted 01/23/2014  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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That is crazy, even check out the weakness on the bottom of the wreath!


Interesting. I can't wait to see the obverse.
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 Posted 01/23/2014  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
I don't usually go for cracks, but I really like this coin.
So I'm guessing the only reason this die held together that long was because it was the anvil w/ a collar around it?
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 Posted 01/23/2014  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
Seller's pic of obverse.

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 Posted 01/23/2014  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
the reverse of these copper nickel cents is often found misaligned, so I think the reverse die was the hammer die. Do I have the logic of that right?
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 Posted 01/23/2014  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keepcalmandcoinon to your friends list
That's amazing. Cracks all over the place on that coin.
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 Posted 01/23/2014  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
I recall that for FE cents, the hammer die was the reverse--but I thought that was switched for IHCs?
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 Posted 01/23/2014  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
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 Posted 01/23/2014  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
good sleuthing 52Raymo - that coin is from the same die! And a bit overpriced at $85 in that condition cleaned.
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 Posted 01/23/2014  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beaglebailey to your friends list
On FE cents, the anvil die was the obverse, but when IHC were minted the hammer die became the obverse which I believe is more typical of most coins. I believe I read this on the Heritage auction site where they were quoting Snow. I cannot find the article now.

I believe the reasoning for making the obverse the anvil die on FE was to increase striking pressure on the obverse in an attempt to correct some of the striking issues that plagued the FE cents.
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 Posted 01/23/2014  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Man, I love coins struck from terminal dies and this one qualifies big time. Nice pick!
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 Posted 01/23/2014  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
Beatlybailey, I believe the FE and copper-nickel cents were struck similarly, then they reversed the hammer/anvil dies when the composition was switched to bronze in 1864.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beaglebailey to your friends list
Robbudo, I am not going to disagree with you because what you are saying makes a lot of sense-that they did not reverse the dies until the metal composition was changed on the IHC. However, I am pretty sure the article stated that the switch was made in 1859. Its not a big deal but it bugs the heck out of me when I know I read something but can't locate the article.
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 Posted 01/25/2014  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7TF to your friends list
Do you guys think the obverse die might have been swapped out after a major clashing incident and the reverse left in for a while? I have always thoguht that die clashes cause these types of die breaks.
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 Posted 01/25/2014  03:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
Very cool cracked coin! I love these types of varieties/errors.
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 Posted 02/09/2015  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add indiancentvarieties to your friends list
Hello!

That die pair is variety 27c in my web resource, which I only started late summer last year. Here is the link to the page:

http://indiancentvarieties.com.fqdn...iety027.html



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