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Pillar of the Community
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Wow, it looks like a fouree. Base metal covered with silver.
Don't be too disappointed. It is all part of your education!
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Funny thing is, this would have sold as solid silver... makes you wonder what's beneath more of our silvers!
I wonder, if the hole was drilled in the coin in suspicion? who knows.
I thought Fouree coins were later roman times?
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Mat, a Fourree, of Domitian, like the example below:   "Obverse IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P XIIII; Head of Domitian, laureate, right Reverse IMP XXII COS XVII CENS P P P; Minerva standing right on top of rostral column, holding spear and shield; owl right" RIC II 771 As is obvious by the date of the coin, Fourrees were being made at that time, and earlier in the Republican era. |
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How do we tell a fourree from a silver?
Even looking at the description, I would have believed it to be pure silver?
Do Fourree coins sell at the same kind of value?
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Usually they are worn enough so that the base metal core is exposed. If there is no wear and the coin is in near mint condition, than you will need to weight the coin. Fouree coins are lighter than solid silver ones.
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Silly question... but, if you guys had this coin.... would it be heading towards the trash?
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It's still and ancient coin with some nice details remaining, plus that hole looks like it's from and old square nail. There are collectors that like fouree and holed coins. I'd keep it. Here is an interesting link about holed ancient coins. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/mo...d_coins.html |
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Glad to hear it Ech, personally, I am not interested in having it in my collection... but I couldn't bring myself to throw it... it seems wrong.
is there anyone on here specifically that would want it as a freebee?
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Hang on to it for a while. If you definitely don't want it, get yourself a tub and chuck it in there. As you carry on cleaning you will find coins that you don't want. Chuck them in the tub. Eventually, when you have enough, stick them on ebay and put the proceeds towards your next batch. |
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if I had that coin i'd keep it...still cool MIB. a fouree is on my "to get" list.
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Just had a read on FAC at meanings of words, and I seen this:
fourée or fourrée
An ancient counterfeit or unofficial coin with a base metal core and a precious metal surface. They are often very patchy, and sometimes only a bronze core remains to be seen.
I didn't realise that it means this coin was a fake roman coin (meaning faked by romans), that's kind of cool? I assumed it was just how they struck some of them officially
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I really think a better explanation needs to be found for fouree coins. The were contemporary fakes but faked by who? For the most part they matched the original coin. So where the copper coin struck from original dies and than silvered over? If so than this was done at the mint. An the mint officials were skimping on the silver perhaps to line there own pockets. Or where they struck an shipped to the fringe's of the emperor to be used by less savory provincials?
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Strangely, I just had the same conversation with my better half, I said, they must have been done at the mint because you would assume that it wouldn't be easy for civilians to replicate the process so well.
I bet, a fair chunk of the silver roman coins out there have the same, but we would never know, This coin, as you will see, would have been a very nice looking silver coin. But they didn't skimp as much on this coin compared to others I have seen since researching.
I do again, the more I have learnt, wonder if in this case the hole was put in the coin to prove it not to be a full silver coin. I also wonder if the damage on the emperors head was done in anger when they realised they had been given a fake silver coin :)
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At the time it was struck I doubt they had any idea it was a fake and it more than likely circulated for a long time before the silver started to wear off. The shape of the nail hole looks like it was done later using a square shaped nail, it could be at that time the silver separated from the coin revealing the base metal core..
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