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Heavy $1 Note

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 Posted 04/29/2014  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carnellrules to your friends list
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 Posted 04/29/2014  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Enlil to your friends list
Its that damned blue ink I say.
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 Posted 05/02/2014  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
I have no clue about your note but I can state that you are the first person I have ever seen to weigh currency. I have never given any thought to variation in paper stock weight but I think you found something interesting
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 Posted 05/04/2014  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
There are a couple of reasons it could be heavy. Neither is going to make you happy.

One: It's fake.

Two: Look up how to repair old paper/maps/books.


I don't know enough about the variance tolerated in paper production to say for certain that it's one of those two things.

Keep it and keep weighing what you collect. The answer may become apparent with more data.
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 Posted 05/04/2014  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list
I agree with biokemist6 and I'd ask why did you decide to weigh it?
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 Posted 06/04/2014  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carnellrules to your friends list
I weighed it because it was thick in my hand compared to other notes.
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 Posted 04/30/2015  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
I raise the same question because I am a new member with a similar note. My testing suggests mine is genuine, but I'm not absolutely certain. My dollar is series 2009. It weighs 1.4g instead of 1.0g
and it is .0065in thick instead of .0043.
I also weighed mine because it felt so thick. The only response I have had from some others is to submit it for grading. I was hoping members here may have come across the same thing. From looking at previous replies to this thread, it doesn't appear to have been the case. Perhaps bumping this thread up may bring more replies. The logical thought to me was that it was sprayed by some sort of clear coating or maybe it was saturated in some liquid substance then dried. Analysis does not suggest anything other than an original note and not being tampered with after it was made.
I want to thank the O.P. for this thread because it gave me a place to inquire about my own heavy and thick dollar.
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 Posted 05/09/2017  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
After two years I was hoping someone else may have come up with info on the too thick and too heavy dollar bills topic. I have better measures on mine now. It weighs 1407mg compared to 957mg for an ordinary note. It is .015mm thick compared to .012mm. I do see a difference under UV light. I wonder if the thicker one soaked up too much ink because there are prominent darker blotches compared to a smooth even coloring on the normal note. Maybe it's spray starch and nothing that would happen during the printing process at all? Just don't know.
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 Posted 05/09/2017  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MerlinAurelius to your friends list
Likely a Chinese fake...
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 Posted 05/09/2017  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
I can see someone faking a 1935 or a 1935A Hawaii or a 1935A North Africa; but a 1935F (especially one with weak margins)? Unlikely.

US paper money (which is not paper), is made up of cloth/cotton fibers. The tolerances of the stock in a "paper" press are going to be much greater than that of a coin press. The note looks genuine from the photo supplied.

What other UNC notes did you compare this to? Same series?

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 Posted 05/09/2017  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
I just noticed mine is 5mm longer than other bills.
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 Posted 05/10/2017  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list
@Albert,

At 1.407 Gram's, it sounds like you also have a good scale...

When I get a chance, I'll weigh some of my Silver Certificates on my scale and see what the results are... I also have a good scale made for weighing Gemstones,, The only challenge will be placing the Note on the little gemstone dish without folding the Note..
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 Posted 05/10/2017  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list
Well, if you think it might be fake have your bank submit it to the Secret Service for determination.
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 Posted 05/10/2017  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
Yes I can measure small values very well.
I don't think the bill is a fake at all, so there's no point in turning it in.
The ink is attracted to an N52 magnet. The microscope reveals details no different than a normal bill.
It's just a little longer, thicker and weighs more than a normal bill.
I was hoping someone here could suggest any known reasons why or how this could have been made this way and perhaps should have been caught in production but was let out as an error.
I may experiment on a few regular dollars by spraying matte finish Polycrylic, spray starch or adhesive to see if they come out with a similar thickness and weight. But that still doesn't account for being 5mm longer.
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