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New Member
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It's definitely not magnetic. I don't have a scale for weighing em in. I'll get back to you on that. Comparing it to another penny the diameter is pretty much the same, just a tiny tiny fraction smaller than a normal penny.
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Pillar of the Community
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There are cheap scales on ebay that work great for weighing coins, gold & silver. If you are going to be looking for errors, they are really nice to have on hand. You can usually find them listed for under $10. I would recommend the fast weigh scales and and to buy from a US seller so it won't take forever for it to arrive to you. The China scales are the exact same but, take about a month to get to you sometimes. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...=0&_from=R40 |
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United States
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Cool, I'll definitely buy one, it's worth the investment. Thanks for that info.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Very interesting.. I think because of the collar damage without strike you might get a premium over the normal due to error collectors bidding for uniqueness
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This planchet appears to be damaged, in my opinion. What is seen on this planchet is not a collar scar. If it was, I would expect design detail from a strike to cause the collar scar in the first place. In addition, the outer, crescent portion on the opposite side of the "collar scar" would have been pushed up by the collar - on this piece it is the opposite.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Hmmm, any way to provide an image of the edge of the coin and confirm whether or not the crescent portion is upturned? If the planchet is flat, then it would just be indented damage  |
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New Member
United States
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Diameter photo:  Photo showing the planchet being slightly pushed up on the crescent side:  I found that a penny fits perfectly within the crescent on the planchet.  Sorry for the so-so photos. I only have a FujiFilm F440 and it is less than ideal for this situation. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm wondering if this might be a planchet that shows a weak incomplete clip. The punch just barely made contact with the strip then the strip was moved slightly forward and a complete blank was punched out.
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New Member
United States
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Well...I get my scale in tomorrow. Weighing it will get me one step closer to believing it is even authentic. I'm having problems understanding the edge. Notice how it seems to have three surfaces, it plateaus but has two flat diagonal sides leading to the rim. Is this part of the error or could this confirm that it may not even be a blank penny planchet?
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Rest in Peace
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Looks like it fell out/popped out of the chamber before it was struck. Excuse my ignorance coop...But wouldn't that damage the striker or is the striker so hard in would not affect it..? |
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United States
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I'm wondering if this might be a planchet that shows a weak incomplete clip. The punch just barely made contact with the strip then the strip was moved slightly forward and a complete blank was punched out. I thought of this as well since the side opposite the crescent shows grooves penetrating the proto-rim in a manner consistent with other incomplete clips that I have seen. But they do not match up with the crescent on the other side. The crescent also appears to be a tad smaller in circumference than a cent. Another one for Mike Diamond......? Edited by ErrorCoins222
07/16/2014 1:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Rubeng, Rookie here thinking very little doubt in my mind its a planchet fixing to be struck. I see the planchet went through the upset process. Zinc planchet should weigh 2.5 grams.
I think I see collar contact marking on the second pic running through the rim, with the die stopping during the strike process in the first pic.
Maybe due to an abrupt power outage stopping the press during the strike. Just another point to ponder. Thanks, Doug.
PS: It could have been thrown clear during the normal production run, but find it hard to picture as I think we're talking thousands of a second for that to happen and clear contact was made.
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New Member
United States
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weigh in seems close enough...  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's simply a damaged blank planchet. No amount of hypothesis changes the fact that the damage is not the same as anything that would be caused by the mint.
It never entered a coining chamber, the damage is not from a die press.
This is not an incomplete clip, as the planchet would not be bent and there would be an equally cut area on the reverse, not bent.
The appearance of this coin is not the result of anything that happened at the mint. Rather, it is a blank planchet that was subsequently damaged outside the mint. (Even if someone screwed with a blank planchet within the mint, it is still simply damaged, as nothing on this planchet suggests it's appearance was caused by minting equipment)
Edited by liveandievarieties
07/20/2014 12:05 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The planchet is a lot softer than the die. So it wouldn't damage the die. Die damage happens when the die hit another hardened item, thus denting one or the other die.
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