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Needing Help Determining If This Old 1836 Half Cent Is Real?

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 Posted 07/20/2014  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redsbabes to your friends list
ok I'm trying to upload pic it said it was accepted but its not on here still working on it.. the weight should be 5.44g mine is 5.6 but didn't know if my scales are off or if the weight varies
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 Posted 07/20/2014  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redsbabes to your friends list
Photos are uploaded.
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 Posted 07/20/2014  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redsbabes to your friends list
the L in liberty looks questionable on the photo but doesn't look like that in natural sunlight with naked eye.. I also know they made restrikes and don't I don't know the difference if any..
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 Posted 07/20/2014  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redsbabes to your friends list
Anyone?
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 Posted 07/20/2014  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list
Be patient

We'll get there!

The reason for the porous surfaces is likely corrosion, but with the off-weight and unusual strike, it could very well be a counterfeit.
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 Posted 07/20/2014  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgettings00 to your friends list
I am by no means an expert but the date looks way off to me.
When you've seen enough US coins you are able to tell when the font is off right away and that just doesn't look right. That date is too skinny and looks like it was drawn with a pencil.

I suggest weighing something else on your scale, like a new coin with known weight found on google, and if that's correct then you know for sure this coin is a counterfeit. It should not be over that much in weight.
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07/20/2014 2:42 pm
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 Posted 07/20/2014  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kefiroth to your friends list
I'm calling fake on this one. The dull porous surfaces, uneven denticles, suspicious-looking date, and most of all the wildly incorrect positioning of "United States of America" on the reverse all indicate this as being inauthentic to me.
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 Posted 07/20/2014  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1000_Rubles to your friends list
I compared the dates and the 8 looks off, it's too thin and small on your coin compared to an authentic one. To me that sends red flags. I don't know for certain but with the weight being over so much IMHO it's not real.
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 Posted 07/20/2014  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Looks fake to me based on the lettering.
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 Posted 07/20/2014  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redsbabes to your friends list
ok thanks to everyone..
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 Posted 07/20/2014  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
Looks fake to me...
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 Posted 07/20/2014  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny Guy to your friends list
The positioning of the ST in STATES on the reverse does not appear to match the original proof strikes nor the first or second restrike of this date. Those letters appear to be closer together than those illustrated in Breen's Encyclopedia of Half Cents.
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 Posted 07/21/2014  04:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Just got here and I see Pennyguy beat me to it. Reverse does not match the reverse of any of the three varities of 1836 (Original, first and second restrikes.) On the original and first restrike the point of leaf is below the serif of S2. On the second restrike it is near the center of the S (And the reverse is the wide border type used on the coronet harlf cents.) On the OP coin it is past the right side of the S.
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 Posted 07/21/2014  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list
Get it slabbed. Even if it's a restrike it's worth $$$. Because of the porosity it might be a spark erosion counterfeit. A new high tech way of counterfeiting coins. Actually the weak denticles scare me.
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 Posted 07/22/2014  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
No DON'T waste your money trying to get it slabbed. As I said it isn't the original or the first or second restrike. The position of the leaves below the final S prove that. Here are images of the reverse of the original, first, and second restrikes

Original
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First restrike
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Second restrike notice the wide rim on this one used on the Braided hair Half Cents
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reverse of the OP coin
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