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Just picked up from APMEX  |
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I got one of these too. Nice coin in hand and affordable.
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RCM should outsource the silver maples and the ilk to Australia. Milkspots have been a problem for decades - fix it already! Maybe if they cared enough for quality and polished the dies from time to time, what a strange finish; too many striations, just go with a mirror finish like normal mints... We would enjoy our coins more and buy these stupid off-weight bullion pieces. Nice design but it's really tailored to the stackers, not the coin people.
Edited by Libertad
11/09/2014 8:41 pm
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@Libertad - It is a bullion
coin, this is the bullion section, just the thing for stackers,
and bullion collectors like to have one at least
of each of the series, 1.5 ounce, 1 ounce SML,
3/4 ounce coins, they are great and all at 38 mm
in diameter they can be shown together, look at
the Wildlife Series, good coins for the price.
The striations are a security detail to prevent
fakes. I like it and I think it will solve the
milk spot issue, no flat surface for the spot to
form on due to detergent drying. The reverse proof
works on the obverse, and the ring of striated legend
on the reverse helps the picture to pop. I will
add this one to the Devils Brigade 3/4 ounce and
the War of 1812 3/4 ounce for a cool set.
If you like the proof version buy the coloured
coin, it is perfect for the nclt collector.
Bullion coins can and will appreciate due to
scarcity, ask Silveroid.
Edited by SilverDon
11/13/2014 10:37 pm
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Not so sure that Brilliant Uncirculated is a proper term for bullion coinage.
Edited by SilverDon
11/14/2014 12:50 am
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Bullion coins do increase in value, as they are assigned by collectors a semi numismatic value. This coin tho, to me, having APMEX as the exclusive dealer, smacks of gimmicks. But hey,if you like the coin, get it! |
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APMEX " ebay" does not ship to Canada, only USA.
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just picked a couple of these up. love them! feel great in hand. even better than a 1 oz.
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I got 10 last Sunday, along with a bunch of birds of prey. Also picked up 3 ea of the zombucks murk diem & feast dollars. It's my move away from over priced Nclt coins. I really like the design and was impressed with the 3/4 wolves. I've also ordered the Nclt version. As I collect the wolf theme. They will go nice with my 2011 wolves and my lone 2006 half Oz wolf. Time will tell what happens to these. I've seen these wolves sell at $29 US under Commerative Canada coins on ebay. I got mine at silver gold bullion, a Canadian dealer. Don't know where they got them from. Edited by pocket change 50
11/16/2014 9:28 pm
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@Don: What you're saying is true, but if one is to go for bullion one should pick up kilos or 100 ouncers, not ounce by ounce. Maples are for the poor man so they might as well look good while he holds it for twenty years to get some enjoyment out of it at least. 3/4 ounce is not a standard weight, it's sort of an oddball and a gimmick.
One thing though: the striations are easily duplicated with CAD, a technology from the turn of the century. Apply this to the fake dies and bingo.
Edited by Libertad
11/17/2014 7:54 pm
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@Libertad, to purchase a 1 Kilo is a risk in a down
market, although don't get me wrong I would like to
have one of those big chunky coins ($635 or so),
I collect bullion coins, usually for $30 or
less, holding a kilo of silver at this time and hoping
for an increase is a bettor's game. Again I collect
the smaller increments, and diversify by getting many
different coins from many different countries.
I'm definitely not a stacker but will purchase 1 ounce
coins close to release date as that is usually the
best deal.
I see your point about the gimmick, I had
to pay a premium for the War of 1812 3/4 ounce coin
but got the Wolf for just over spot. I like the looks
of the 1.25 ounce Bison and at $23 it is a good
addition to the Canadian Bullion Wildlife collection.
Now with the 1.5 Polar Bear and Cub coming soon it will
be nice to display with the Polar Bear and Fox 1.5's.
There is a wide variety to collect with the foreign coins,
I can't keep up. I also find it hard to order
the cases for the 1.5 ounce and likely the 1.25 ounce
as the thickness is not standard and I'm loathe to
order from Germany when I just need one airtite. The
oddball ones are those that are neat. They are all
38 mms and I got an extra O' Canada Box that can hold
12. A lot better than spending $109 on an ounce of
nclt, although I'm guilty of that when I like the
design (Great Lakes).
Again the striations are stated to be an
anti-counterfeiting technology, not my statement but
that of the mint, likely a lot harder to duplicate
with accuracy than the old linen finish. Yea I've
seen CAD technology, not sure that this coin is as easy
to duplicate as you say, the accuracy and tolerances
are pretty exact on those striations. I heard that
it may be better for lessening the amount of milk
spots and that has to be positive. Just arrived today the Wolf and 1812,
Didn't have the time to pull them out of the airtites.    Edited by SilverDon
11/19/2014 8:07 pm
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Hey Don, I see where you're coming from. We have to separate collecting coins and collecting bullion. If one is paying a 25% premium for a coin that one "hopes" will increase in value then one is losing from the get-go. I don't "collect" bullion; I change it from an ingot into art so I flip it almost instantly - no downside apart from demand, but like any product you have to offer something to the market that no one else has - and the RCM does just that. I just wish that they'd import some workers from other mints of the world to get an insight into what they're doing wrong, which is mass-producing a bad quality product in silver maples. No other mint seems to have this problem. About anti-counterfeiting: any "respectable" mafia can afford some machines like a 3D scanner and 3D printer and enslave some people to run them. The tolerances are in the computer file down to the micrometer. On a lighter note, silver grizzlies are finally affordable. I'll be picking one up next time I see one. They've been $50 for the longest time. |
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I agree with you on the quality issues, most of
my bullion has milk spots. Actually just noticed
milk spots on my 2015 Somalian Elephant so not a
problem limited to the RCM. Understand that some
proof nclt coins recently started showing spot
issues. They could do with some help on that I
agree. As for the counterfeiters, they will always
try to make something for nothing, they will be
caught, that's why I buy my coins from reputable
dealers, I'm sure I'll get stung some day.
I like the prices for bullion coins as well.
Paying $100 per ounce for nclt just seems silly
after buying bullion coins.
Edited by SilverDon
11/20/2014 03:59 am
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I've ordered one of the grey wolf coins via a friend. I can't wait to have it in hand. P.S. Milk spots are clearly a huge issue when it comes to RCM coins. What can they do to eliminate milk spots? |
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