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1955 Franklin Half Is It A PF Or MS?

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 Posted 09/03/2007  01:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list
lol me either. the horse blanket she brought home is huge they had to have large wallets back then. it wont fit in my wallet lol
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 Posted 09/03/2007  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Gary: Is the fields mirror like? Can't tell from the image. If they aren't then it may be a business strike. A couple of things I notice on this coin. 1. Obverse: What is under the Bust? Looks like something going on there. 2. The OF on the reverse. The O looks like it is missing? But from the image it looks like a business strike. Still a keeper. I don't see Full Bell Lines on your coin unless the glisten blurs it? Probably some one's collection that got stolen. Cashing it in to remove the evidence that they did it.
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 Posted 09/03/2007  01:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list
yes it is mirror like looks just like a proof today looks. as for parts missing I think it is the sheen of the coin in the scanner. it is full bell and a very nice full strike coin everything on it looks perfect. I don't have a clue why it looks so bad in the scan but I think it is the shine and glass together
i almost asked you what you are doing up so late I forgot you are just down the road and it is only 10 pm now lol
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 Posted 09/03/2007  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list
Well, if it's mirror like, I would say it's a proof then. Try taking it to a coin dealer near you, he would know better since he can see it in hand. Anys, cool finds!
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 Posted 09/03/2007  02:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list
After seeing the pictures, I think it is a proof.
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 Posted 09/03/2007  02:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list
Thanks Amazon99 I am 99% sure it is too but I don't remember what the proof coins from back then looked like. I put it next to an MS Franky and they are worlds apart
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 Posted 09/03/2007  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list
Are you going to try to dip it, so that you can get some of the dirt and fingerprints(if there are any) off it?
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 Posted 09/03/2007  02:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list
Not sure. I have a bottle of acetone but I have never cleaned a coin in my life that was worth more than face. unless I was doing research with cents. lol
it looks like a fingerprint over the date. would an acetone soak hurt it any. how long would you leave it in?
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 Posted 09/03/2007  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
First of all why didn't you go back to the same place and attempt to get everything they have? I would have. I still would go back to the same place just in case. Someone is spending a lot of something that has been laying around a long time.
Now as for the Acetone. You can use that on the coin with no effect to the coin itself and it should remove most junk.
HOWEVER, first note this. Take a clean GLASS dish and put some of the Acetone on that dish and allow to evaporate. If there is any residue left, that Acetone has become contaminated and should be discarded or used for painting or something. The reason is Acetone is a great absorbant of everything. Even the inside of a can where the interior coating may have not been sufficient or is now also absorbed. If the Acetone is OK, then use a clean GLASS jar or dish where you can easily have access to the coin. DO NOT use metallic utensils to put the coin in or take out. Try to use only glass for this purpose. Dip for a while. No hurry since pure Acetone will not hurt the coin. Several minutes should be sufficient. Now once removed, rinse the coin in distilled water, place on a cotton fabric, blow dry with a hair dryer on warm, not hot.
If the finger prints remain, then futher attempts to remove are up to you. Since other chemicals would be considered cleaning. I've had great success removing finger prints with a jewlery cleaner from Walmart but again, that also constatutes coin cleaning.
Let us all know what happens.
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 Posted 09/03/2007  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list
It maybe a type 2 where the eagle claws are doubled I know that there a 1959 variety?but this one looks MS to me
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 Posted 09/03/2007  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list
it has a lot of Mechanical Doubling on it. the top of the eagles head is there twice maybe half or more of the letters are MD. or it all looks MD to me. I am sure it is not a DD so I will leave that one alone.
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 Posted 09/03/2007  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I am sure a half specialist would be able to tell you for sure which one it is because I am sure there has to be some differences between PF and UNC but I have no idea of what they may be
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 Posted 09/04/2007  03:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list
I am 99% sure it is a Pf coin. but has anyone a clue what it is worth? the Daughter wants to sale a bunch of coins that she took out of the till at work. (she paid face not took lol) the Red Book has this one at $90.00 in PF this coin is obviously not PF so I don't have a clue what it would sale for.
Thanks all
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 Posted 09/04/2007  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
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I am 99% sure it is a Pf coin...this coin is obviously not PF


Gary, Proof has nothing to do with the condition of the coin. Proof is a description of the process by which a coin is minted so a proof coin will always be a proof coin regardless of how much wear or damage occurs. To me, this looks like a proof. Ben's hair, the Liberty bell, and the eaglet are sharply detailed indicating a proof strike but a remote possibility one heck of a full MS strike.

I cannot tell from the photos if any hairlines or light wear is present, but assuming it is since it was found in a cash register, the Heritage Value Index lists PR58 1955 @ $23-31 and PR63 @ $35-45. I would recommend a dip in acetone. It might remove the haze and won't harm the coin. If the haze is removed by acetone and the mirrors are restored, do not rinse with water just another dip in clean acetone. Water, regardless of whether it is distilled or not, will leave water spots on proofs.
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 Posted 09/04/2007  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list
Thanks Bio. yes I know the ms pf thing for the later coins but the 50's to some of the 60's have them pf coins that are a bit harder to tell. I put the coin in a jar of acetone yesterday and it is looking very nice. the haze is gone and the coin looks almost like a pf of today I do see one very minute line on the obv though where it took a hit or something. not a ding but what looks like a very small maybe a half MM scratch but it has to be magnified to see it and there was what looked like a finger print on the rev but it is gone so it was just spent very recently otherwise the print would have been another part of the coin.
thanks
Gary
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