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JimmyD, I recall reading that a couple of years ago. Thanks for bringing it in to the convo and refreshing my memory.
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Valued Member
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Interesting info JimmyD.
Could you please tell us where the info on the interview with C.G. O'Neil came from.
"I suppose each one of us can decide on validity of this story"(JimmyD)
Very true statement.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks Pennyman.
My post was from some notes I had and I was trying to find the website. You saved me the trouble.
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Pillar of the Community
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Your welcome JimmyD@BellmakerQuote:
"I suppose each one of us can decide on validity of this story" I'm curious to hear what you think of the validity. |
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Appreciate the link pennyman007.
"Next to be approached was Minister of Finance, The Hon. W. E. Harris. Oddly enough, he was agreeable to the proposal and gave the necessary authorization, quite probably to the astonishment of the Mint Master. Thus it was that on December 10th, 1955, the Mint filled a special order for Playtex by minting 2,000 silver dollars."(Patrick Glassford is shown as the source of such information or material)
If the Minister of Finance did have the authority to grant such an action to be taken on behalf of a private firm and did direct the Mint Master to comply with such a request, I am inclined to believe that an official written record of the directive would exist.
If such a written directive does exist, I am inclined to believe that the hobby would have already been made aware of the document.
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Pillar of the Community
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bellmaker, with your keen interest you should file an FOI/consult the archives to find out if such a record exists, instead of assuming that it would have already been surfaced, maybe it was viewed by some of the authors you don't believe to be credible, but not sourced. You seem to have a keen interest in the subject and this would be a great way for you to add some value to the existing body of knowledge.
You laid down the challenge to these so called rumours, now it is up to you to take some responsibility and add to the body of knowledge.
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Bellmaker
"The wording implies that the Mint restarted the dollar coining presses just to accommodate a request from an unknown private company."
Obviously you are not from Ottawa. My family has lived near Ottawa for just about 200 years. While I was not around in 1955, I am quite sure based on the stories I have heard that, in 1955 Ottawa, if the head of Playtex up the river in Arnprior wanted some silver dollars for a special reason, it would take him about 2 phone calls to reach the Minister of Finance.....perhaps only one phone call if they were both members of the Royal Ottawa Golf Club, the Rideau Club or had cottages near each other. I suspect that the Minister of Finance would have happily got in touch with someone at the mint and all would have figured out how to get 2000 dollars made as a special presentation to the employees of a large local employer. If the mint report had already been finalized and this created a paperwork problem, I am sure that the extra dollars would have been added to the 1956 total. I doubt very much that the paperwork would have got in the way of the minting of the dollars.
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"with your keen interest you should file an FOI/consult the archives to find out if such a record exists" (purelywasted)
No, I believe this is the part that is up to those who have a competitive desire to challenge.
I'm satisfied that it doesn't exist.
"You laid down the challenge to these so called rumours" (purelywasted)
Not challenging anyone. Simply mentioning things that have zero supporting documentation.
This one just happens to be in a reference book or two.
Reference; A book to which you can refer for authoritative facts.(WordWeb)
Believe the key word in the definition is facts, not hearsay.
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I'm satisfied that it doesn't exist. Just like that? Prove to us that it does not exist... Or, so what if it does not exist? Not every piece of communication in Canadian government is archived forever. My own department routinely shreds files that are a decade older or more... Do you save your tax files and receipts for more than eight years? Most Canadians don't - so by your logic, does that mean those shredded receipts never existed? "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." (Carl Sagan) "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Page 4: I'm waiting for one single "rumour" to be presented and debunked. Did I miss it?
Oops, now I started page 5.
Edited by kbbpll
12/11/2014 12:42 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Bellmaker you must have found the history of mankind frustrating seeings most of it is based on hearsay.
Well no rumors to debunk maybe we should start one..lol
By the way the dictionary is a book, do you believe everything it says?
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Page 5 now and why do I still think this thread is going to end in a bad way? Back to the subject at hand on the Arnprior Dollar of 1955. Could there be a poorer choice for the nickname of this die over polishing variant. Die over polishing resulting in various stages of disappearing waterlines (back and front of canoes) exists right from the 1935 issues. Another misnamed variety is the 1952 No waterlines and also the 1957 1 waterline. Those are subjects for another thread after this one explodes !  ! Have a good rest of the week all............off to the Las Vegas Coin Show........everyone be nice to Dean and to each other !!!!! ! |
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Sorry for feeding the troll.
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Valued Member
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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." (Carl Sagan)[SPP-Ottawa] Notice the absence of a name for the firm. In December 1955, the Royal Canadian Mint made up a special order of 2000 silver dollars for a firm in Arnprior, Ontario, after the regular issue of these coins had been officially completed for the year"(Charlton 6th Edition 1958) "It is reported that late in 1955, after the regular issue had been struck, a special lot was minted for a firm in Arnprior, Ontario." (Canadian Numismatic Publishing Institute, First Edition 1959~60) |
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