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Is This Bag Mark On Liberty's Face A Deal Breaker?

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 Posted 01/21/2015  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mendelman to your friends list
The mark is less concerning than the overall surface of the coin.

It looks overdipped and not original at all. Or the photo severely muted the luster.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list
The mark on the cheek regardless of what other issues the coin may or may not have is enough to not buy the coin no matter what the price may be. It is too noticeable and distracting and as such is what I would consider a problem coin.

If you are considering buying a coin with such a mark in a very prominent location you have to think about how that will affect its marketability when the time comes to sell it.

It is a common date so you should not have a problem locating another which does not have the problems this one has at a reasonable price.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
Yeah, that would cause me to pay way less than value on it. Not to mention the scratches on the bottom right side of the obv. Not a horrible coin, but not a front line piece either. Maybe at half value. Maybe.

As a side note, I have purchased from them as well. They have no hassle returns and never had an issue. I would have no problems telling someone to buy a coin from them.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list
The coin does appear to have mint state details, but the hit to the face is unfortunate. I personally would pass on it unless the price is low. I'm not sure if those are light cleaning marks by Liberty's foot or not.

I purchased two BU 19th century silver coins from GSC several years ago and was happy with both, but have not bid on any of their coins since after reading some of the criticisms leveled against them.

I've noticed they've stopped listing coins as BU, BU+++ and so forth.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list
I feel like GSC auctions always sell for more than they are worth.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add messydesk to your friends list
By itself, no, but together with the coin being cleaned it's one I'd probably avoid. I've never dealt with this seller, but I've heard quite often that their return policy is good.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OLCoins to your friends list
The surfaces would have turned me off before worrying about the mark. The photo seems to be softening a pretty strong amount of hairlines on the obverse.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I almost wonder at times if it would be possible for some really good jewelry person to fix things like that. Sure ruins what looks like a great coin.


I'm willing to believe with a little forethought and care a person of sufficient skill could make a pretty good go of it. Probably have to cost the coin a grade to hide the work, though, so it would wash. Might be worth considering for damaged coins.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1487 to your friends list

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I feel like GSC auctions always sell for more than they are worth.


Absolutely they do. His coins sell for MORE than similar PCGS slabbed coins. And they usually have flaws. Do I think it's ridiculous and am I a bit jealous as a seller? Of course. But he's got that powerseller status and that's all that matters to a lot of bidders. I look elsewhere for good deals as it is pretty much impossible to get something cheap there. To each there own, though. GSC is very successful.
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 Posted 01/22/2015  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
We've caught them selling coins cracked from Details slabs before. Whether they bought the coins slabbed is not known.
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 Posted 01/22/2015  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list
I replied several days ago that I trusted this seller but after hearing all the negative feedback from CCF I'll think twice about using this seller again.
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 Posted 01/22/2015  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list

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I purchased two BU 19th century silver coins from GSC several years ago and was happy with both, but have not bid on any of their coins since after reading some of the criticisms leveled against them.


See, now THAT confuses me. If you have made purchases from them and you had ZERO issues, then why would you not make further purchases because someone else criticized them? That just does not make sense to me.

This illustrates an issue I have with the tendency to bandwagon criticizm of a seller. Just because SsuperDave (just using your name as an example) had an issue with that seller does not mean I, who have NOT had an issue, should no longer buy from them.

If you went by that logic, the few people who have had issues with me would cancel out all those that have not. Just not logical IMO.
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 Posted 01/22/2015  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Silver Searcher to your friends list

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I'm willing to believe with a little forethought and care a person of sufficient skill could make a pretty good go of it. Probably have to cost the coin a grade to hide the work, though, so it would wash. Might be worth considering for damaged coins.


I wonder if this has ever been tried? Any jewelers out there?
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 Posted 01/22/2015  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Oh, of course it's been tried. Many times it's succeeded. Don't know how many, of course.

I would do business with GSC, but I trust my skills with this stuff.
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 Posted 01/22/2015  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
If it were me, I would not purchase this coin at any price.
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