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Is This Verdigris, Should I Dip In Acetone?

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 Posted 01/21/2015  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list
That could happen. As far as a cleaned coin I'm not sure if a TPG would detail this. Interesting question.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
It's verdigris, and all acetone will likely do is somewhat dessicate it. Progress will be slowed, some will be removed, but for this one I'm spending my cash on Verdicare instead of acetone. Use the product built for the job.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I'm not sure that's verdigris,looks sticky like gum or grease.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list
Well, why not do an acetone bath then Verdicare.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Battery Acid will work but will also completely ruin the coin.
Just try the Acetone. Nothing to loose. Might be something else on that coin so again, just try.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakesis to your friends list
There is something sticky there as well (or instead). Let me look at the Verdicare, since I have a few coins that have this (though nothing too expensive).
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 Posted 01/21/2015  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakesis to your friends list
Yep, I'll start with the acetone, and if I get really frustrated, will consider the battery acid ;-)
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 Posted 01/21/2015  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
I have both acetone and verdis care at my desk ready to go at a moments notice. Soak it in acetone, then treat with the verdis care.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakesis to your friends list
Okay thanks everyone. One last question. The only reason I was worried about the coin looking cleaned, if the toning is different, was whether the coin isn't treated as "cleaned" if you have someone professional restore it. Again, this coin isn't worth the trouble, as it's not that expensive. But generally speaking do you avoid the 'this coin is cleaned!" problem if a professional "restores" it, or is it the same problem if the remaining toning makes clear that something was there and now it's gone?
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 Posted 01/21/2015  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
There is definitely some verdigris on the coin but there also seems like there's some residue. It might be a mixture of verdigris covered with residue. Always follow the polarity ladder although I would probably jump right to xylene based on the gummy-looking residue:

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 Posted 01/21/2015  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
A professional will refuse to conserve a coin for the same reasons we would use to argue against it - the resulting coin will look obviously cleaned. Out here in the forum, where the business isn't on the line, we can look farther out for solutions and candidates for conservation in the interest of preserving whatever the best is that's left in a coin. The arguments for/against are no different.

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 Posted 01/21/2015  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakesis to your friends list
That's an interesting point, Dave. And as someone else noted, if the coin is already being slowly destroyed, better to preserve it now -- it's not going to be any better in 20 years if I plan on hanging on to it.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Verdigris isn't always dry, and PVC plasticizer reactions tend to be milky rather than green on copper. So by all means get it into acetone to start - every coin, always, in my opinion - but expect it to warrant more specific attention to arrest the verdigris. If it's just PVC, by the time it looks like this there's metal missing underneath and although it's anecdotal I've yet to see a copper coin that badly eaten by it. The stuff likes the taste of silver better.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakesis to your friends list
One of the things I'm trying to figure out is what to do with my collection that I've socked away in my safety deposit box since 1979. I've been going through it this week, for the first time since then. I certainly never dipped the coins back then in acetone or anything else. Is that the kind of thing I should do now? I'm loathe to touch them at all, lest I mess them up.
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 Posted 01/22/2015  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
At this distance in time, I think any chemical problems you might have had with your storage methods would have shown itself. You should be fine.
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