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I meant to weigh it, but forgot. It weighs 2.47 grams; consistent with zinc cents.
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Pillar of the Community
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It has been squashed between two pieces of leather.
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probably put on something hot ...like a stove
that's why its a dark color
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Bedrock of the Community
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SSK is correct, it is a Texas Penny.
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A Texas Penny gets the name from the "everything's bigger in Texas" meme. When you hammer a Cent between two pieces of leather, it flattens and expands with surprising accuracy. They're tough on collectors who haven't seen them before, because they're so accurate. After all, they're real.  Popular thing to do, apparently, because we see a lot of them here. |
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I will say it again, " I learn something new here every day " !
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I am posting here (18 months later), because one element that has to be considered is that these coins typically have rims. To have a rim, means it has a collar die. Oversize planchets do not fit in the collar die. If someone were to manually shove it in there, it would bend after the strike and during ejection. Now this one, looks very similar, but it is not a Texas Cent. It is struck on an oversize (as well as over thickened and overweight planchet). You can even see the die polish striations. There was minor rim finning and yes, it was bent by the collar die (that is why it got a 'Genuine' grade). https://www.PCGS.com/cert/33950455 "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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You certainly do learn something new on the CCF everyday! |
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Quote:Now this one, looks very similar, but it is not a Texas Cent. It is struck on an oversize (as well as over thickened and overweight planchet). You can even see the die polish striations. There was minor rim finning and yes, it was bent by the collar die (that is why it got a 'Genuine' grade). They piece was "assisted" by a mint worker. It shows rims and finning on both sides. That means it was struck IN the collar. No way to strike a 21 mm plnchet inside a 19 mm collar. Someone mounted cent dies in a nickel collar and then struck this piece. |
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I would think Texas Cent, because the would be static devices including the bust seem to be stretched out of proportion. Coin weight is with in tolerance for this year. Don't think the die would stretch the design out, because of collar size or a more extreme no collar scenario. If this coin is bent I'm not picking up on it. Seems flat to me. Thanks, Doug. Adding: also the missing copper plating seems typical of that seen on a copper plated Texas Cent. Edited by Halo1st
01/26/2018 5:06 pm
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Looks like e Texas Cent to me. Note the diameter is larger than a regular coin:  |
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Quote:I would think Texas Cent, because the would be static devices including the bust seem to be stretched out of proportion. For the Canadian cent - the devices are the same size as a normal cent, the rim is excessively thick and the coin itself is about 1.5 times as thick as a normal zinc cent. Also, I had XRF'd this piece, it was a zinc alloy not normally used in the Cu-plated zinc strikes. How you make a coin larger, thicker, an heavier by flattening it and removing the plating? Quote:
They piece was "assisted" by a mint worker. Absolutely. I suspect "mint sport" was at play here, but surprisingly it shows signs of light circulation... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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How you make a coin larger, thicker, an heavier by flattening it and removing the plating? You can't, that Canadian cent started out with a thicker, heavier, over sized planchet before it was ever struck. The real question is where did they get the planchet? Smuggle in a zinc sheet and punch out a nickel sized blank? |
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