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 Posted 03/25/2015  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Oh, it's PCGS MS62
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 Posted 03/25/2015  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list
What 62 how?
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Let me grt this right? Ms62 struck through cloth error is what they gave him correct?
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how and where did you find that bad boy? Roll hunting?
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Let me grt this right? Ms62 struck through cloth error is what they gave him correct?


Yep. They will assign a Mint State grade to an error of this type based on handling marks not directly attributable to the error, which would be clear in this case because those marks would be fresh on a very smooth surface from the cloth. Wouldn't be difficult to grade. You just have to move the goalposts a bit to redefine what a "quality" coin would be under those circumstances. Basically TPG's puffing out their chests.

It looks circulated because the cloth was thick enough (Mint bag?) to cushion the reverse strike. Heck, it was thick enough to make the obverse look like a broadstrike.
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 Posted 03/25/2015  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Here-Ya-Go-Coop-:-
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Nice Looks good in coops files!
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 Posted 03/25/2015  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Sweet coop! Glad I can help :-)
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AT214,
Bought it raw years ago for, let's just say a bargain. Submitted it before PCGS's crazy error fee.
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Very cool and thanks for the explanation on that superdave I was curious
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Ok... can someone explain how a "struck through cloth" could happen?

Did some poor technician get too close to the press and sacrifice part of his shirt?
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 Posted 03/26/2015  02:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Or a piece of cloth from a rag used on the machine. Sometimes I wonder if they are just playing around? But it doesn't take a large piece to get in the way. Images are enlarged, so it could be as small as a dime.
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 Posted 03/26/2015  02:29 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
From what I've studied, Mint employees routinely wipe down machinery with cloth, to get grime and grease to a minimum.
Sometimes, cloth gets caught between the die and planchet and so...a struck through cloth error occurs.
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Mint employees routinely wipe down machinery with cloth, to get grime and grease to a minimum.

Sure, but they're not doing this while the press is *running* are they? From your theory I picture a timer of 15 seconds that they have to get in and out to wipe the dies down and some poor tech hauling butt out of the press area and leaving a rag behind...


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Sometimes I wonder if they are just playing around? But it doesn't take a large piece to get in the way.

Indeed, that would be funny. Still... after one press, maybe two, I'd think that the cloth would be obliterated, the fibers crushed.
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 Posted 03/26/2015  03:45 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Actually, they wipe down often..even while machinery is running.
Generally this type of error occurs when a piece of cloth (small,medium,large) is caught between the die and planchet to be struck.
Accidentally or on purpose..one will never know.
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