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Valued Member
United States
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If that is the same coin, then it has been dipped or something to remove the spots visible in the old photo certification. This is one that would definitely need to be seen in hand to see if there are breaks in the luster, etc...
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Valued Member
United States
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After looking more closely, I still cant tell if this was the same coin... but I can say that there are more minor hits/marks on the coin as it is now than in the older photo.
-between the L & A of dollar on the reverse
-Just North-East of the 'E' in ONE
-Possibly along the 'd' in God
That being said, always buy the coin - and in this I would say "and not the opinion!"
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like a high possibility it is just a spec of dirt on the plastic pocket the photo is in. This is a very old pouch. Just think of how dirt speckled those photo holders in your wallet become.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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The seller has 3 of these for sale, and I can't match up any coin to the photo. I've purchased a few of these, and have always been able to match at least one point from coin to photo. Am coming up with nothing on these. They also originally came with a little insert in the flip, and they are missing.
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Valued Member
United States
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i don't think this is the same coin at all !!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I bet he came into a stack of those certs and thought they would add premiums to somewhat matching coins he had. I wonder if anacs should be contacted?
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Valued Member
United States
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He has three others too. Not the same coins ! Go ahead and VAM them. They are NOT Correct. Louis |
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Valued Member
United States
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yes someone should call ANACS and ebay !! |
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Valued Member
United States
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On this 1898-O the ANACS coin doesn't have die cracks. (see Rev.)But the coin in the picture does !! On reverse by RIC of America !! The coin grew new cracks ? No it did not. All 3 of these coins are NOT correct. Louis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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They said they found it in an Estate sale and the coin is not slabbed. Personally, I think it be best to just to ignore the certificate, and bid on it as if it was raw. I don't see that mark by the chin in the photo on the coin. There is a hit by the chin but does not look the same as in the pic. The photo is also black and white. It could be possible that the certificates got mixed up during the estate sale. Best to ignore them and bid on it as if it was raw. Whoever conducted the sale probably knew nothing about coins.
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04/30/2015 3:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Seller has ended the listings and thanked the CCF members.  |
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 United States
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Thanks for doing the right thing, Ed. His intent doesn't matter - we don't convict based on things like this in America. Even if the seller currently has close to 2,000 coins listed and has probably seen photo-certs before since he claims 35 years in the biz.
With his stock level, frankly I'm assuming he's employing underlings.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Since the coins and certificates were separate it isn't that unusual for coins to get separated from their certificates and then paired up again with the wrong coin if a seller wasn't careful. On the more sinister side, back when the certificates were the only thing going there was a thriving market in selling certificates without coins. Dealers would have a coin, say a nice Fine 14 D Lincoln, and they would buy a VF ANACS certificate and use it to sell the coin to someone who didn't bother to compare the coin to the photo. Some dealers made a business sending the same coins in over and over and selling the certificates. And this isn't hearsay, I saw it being done.
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That, more than anything else, is what forced the creation of slabs.
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