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Collecting PO-1 Coins

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 Posted 05/19/2015  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Nickelsearcher is not "fanatic," by the way. He's "thorough."
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 Posted 05/19/2015  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Some collectors only collect lowballs.
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 Posted 05/19/2015  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
I would like to create a lowball Morgan, not mechanically, but by keeping it in my pocket for a while. My only piece in AG-3 is a 1904-S, which I don't want to use. Anyone have tips, objections or suggestions on where to find a good (common) coin to use?
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 Posted 05/19/2015  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list

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Anyone have tips, objections or suggestions on where to find a good (common) coin to use?


You can find well worn examples of common Morgans in a dealer's junk box. Then all you just have to keep it in your pocket for a few months to finish the job.
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Thanks, CC2012. The problem is that there is only one really big coin show in the area every year, and it just happened this month. There also aren't many good dealers nearby, as I live in rural King County, WA. I'll keep my eyes peeled, though.
As for how long it takes, I've heard estimates on this forum from a couple months to a decade. What actually causes the wear, is it the fabric of the pocket or does it need other coins rubbing against it?
By the way, I'm not planning on having it graded, I want to just keep it in my pocket as a novelty and a sort of 'numismatic ID', if you will. At least until the date & MM are in danger of wearing off.
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 Posted 05/19/2015  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
In Canada, this is also popular with our silver dollars... a coin like this one, is coveted by many trying to find worn examples from the late 1960s, and worth a premium well over melt value.

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Nice coin, SPP-Ottawa.

I never expected my thread to be such a hit- none of my others have gotten this many replies.
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 Posted 05/19/2015  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
You've found a topic it was time to talk about again.

Creating lowballs in your pocket is not considered bad form. You're doing it the same way the coin's normal wear pattern would have emerged, and on the same timeframe. It's when you involve mechanical processes before the final pocket wear because you're in a hurry, that's when the pitchforks come out.
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 Posted 05/19/2015  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
I dont have a p01 yet and while I'm not a lowball collector per se people who know me know I love color on my coins and I couldn't resist sending this one in. I know its not an 01 but technically 02 is a lowball. And ya there's no way for a lowball to be naturally toned in a legitimate sense but I think the circulation color on this girl is about as good as it gets

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As I was preparing a pic of this 1895-O Barber half for the 'How far back can we go? Third Edition' thread, I realized it's so bad I could use it as a pocket piece if got a replacement for the spot in my 7070. I'd rather do a Morgan, but it's a possibility.

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 Posted 05/20/2015  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
Numisma -

IMHO your 1895-O Barber half has a technical grade of FR02/AG03 .. I am unable to judge by the photos the surfaces relative to being certifiable at a TPG.

Continuing the thread of true PO01 lowballs ... I suggest that this Barber half might help set the expectation for a true lowball.

1895-S Barber half dollar - PCGS PO01

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 Posted 05/20/2015  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
Sadly, I didn't get this coin as a lowball, just for my 7070. At this point it's almost complete (just need Seated dollar no motto and 2 commem halves) but several of the coins are in bad condition. This, my '98 draped bust cent, my 1819 fair-AG heavily cleaned cent, and my clad quarter are all cheap coins.
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The main problem I see in this field is how easy it is to make them look like worn coins. Not sure how a rock tumbler would make them look but there are so many ways to make coins worn.
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 Posted 05/21/2015  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
The problem then would be how to keep it from looking like it is freshly or artificially worn. Sure you can try toning it after you wear it down, but you run into the same problem as with retoning high grade coins. It isn't easy to get the coloring to look natural.
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 Posted 05/21/2015  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
I love lowball coins! Some nice ones posted here.
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