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1900-D Indian Head Penny

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 Posted 06/17/2015  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikeymus to your friends list

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I don't even see it now...


52raymo it is barely visible in both photos but it shifted closer to the O for some reason. look for the outline of the D to the bottom left corner of the O I went Max zoom and I ain't doing that again it was causing me problems just trying to hold the camera steady while at the same time trying to hold my 70 lumen LED flashlight on it to get more light.
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 Posted 06/17/2015  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1487 to your friends list
Not sure if there's just too much light in the photos, but the surface of the coin looks very rough to me like there is some corrosion or porosity. I also think that whatever the D is from it is post mint damage, although it doesn't look like how a typical counterstamp would.
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 Posted 06/17/2015  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
Now it looks like an S in the close-up photo.
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 Posted 06/17/2015  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
There is no such animal, and it appears to be simply a random circulation mark. Probably VG and worth about a buck.
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 Posted 06/17/2015  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikeymus to your friends list

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Not sure if there's just too much light in the photos, but the surface of the coin looks very rough to me like there is some corrosion or porosity. I also think that whatever the D is from it is post mint damage, although it doesn't look like how a typical counterstamp would.


Well these are Bronze coins so I don't know if they are cast or not so these are probably pockmarks from the casting process. I'm still thinking the D was from a altered die there is just too much going on for it to be a counter stamp. What type of Die was used for the bronze planchettes versus the prior copper planchettes?
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 Posted 06/17/2015  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list
Okay, this coin is normal, no mint mark. First of all the mint mark would have been placed on the reverse, no the obvrrse. Second of all, dalohogana punches are highly improbably because they would've been ground down and sold for scrap (like dies, right?) Just another 1901 IHC
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 Posted 06/17/2015  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikeymus to your friends list

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Okay, this coin is normal, no mint mark. First of all the mint mark would have been placed on the reverse, no the obvrrse. Second of all, dalohogana punches are highly improbably because they would've been ground down and sold for scrap (like dies, right?) Just another 1901 IHC


I honestly don't know what they did with the equipment after the Dalohogna mint closed. But I highly doubt the equipment was scrapped the government back in the late 19th century probably reused a lot of the Dalohogana equipment and were probably installed in the new Denver Mint back in 1906. And the punches would have still been in use till 1907 when the new dies were put into production with the new miniaturization equipment that just came out in 1907. And this is a 1900 IHC not 1901.


BTW I checked coins from Dalohogana online and the size and font style are very similar if not the same to the mark on my coin. I am wondering if it was possible that the Philadelphia Mint was experimenting to see if the the punches would work on the new dies or someone messed up and put it in the wrong spot on the die. But as for PMD the location of the D and lack of any damage to the bust and devices rule out anything done by hand it is just to precise a strike to have been done by hand and the coin wasn't deformed in any way.
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 Posted 06/18/2015  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
This is simple. Way, way back someone in the government decided to make a Denver Mint. As a test they took that coin of yours and tried out a D Mint mark on it. But since there was no Denver Mint yet, no one knew just where or how a D Mint mark would appear or look so this is what the results are or were. And since there was no Lincoln Cent yet, they used that Indian cent.
Or it could be a PMD thing.
And did you notice the Tomahawk just above the 2nd and 3rd Feather.
And if you look closely, you will also see a flower in between that Tomahawk and the D mint mark.
And what is that Diamond shaped thing right in front of the Indians mouth?
And you should see what I see in the clouds.
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 Posted 06/18/2015  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LeeG to your friends list
If it was a 1909-S it would be worth submitting.

Since it isn't, put it en an album.
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 Posted 06/18/2015  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Your eyes and brain are trying to make sense out of random "noise". It tries to fouce things into recongizable patterns and are seeing things which aren't there. When you tell someone what they are supposed to be seeing and where it will then predispose others to see the same thing. (The pattern recognition centers of the brain have been told what to expect and so they find it.)
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And did you notice the Tomahawk just above the 2nd and 3rd Feather.


uh-oh. I see the tomahawk. Should I be worried?
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 Posted 06/18/2015  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list


Anyways, its a normal coin.
An I knew it was 1900, not 1901
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 Posted 06/18/2015  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

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Well these are Bronze coins so I don't know if they are cast or not so these are probably pockmarks from the casting process.

Incorrect, the blanks are punched from alloy sheets- there is no casting involved in the coin minting process.

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What type of Die was used for the bronze planchets versus the prior copper planchets?

I do not even understand your question Bronze planchets had been in use since 1864, copper planchets were only used for large cents.

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I highly doubt the equipment was scrapped the government back in the late 19th century probably reused a lot of the Dahlonega equipment and were probably installed in the new Denver Mint back in 1906.

The Dahlonega Mint was controlled by the Confederate Government during the Civil War. I cannot say for sure but I would bet that anything of use in the mint building was repurposed for the war effort once the Confederates figured out that they did not have the capability to mass produce coinage. The building sat abandoned until 1873 when it became the campus of North Georgia College. The Dahlonega Mint equipment was installed in 1837, there is virtually no chance they recycled any of that ancient decrepit equipment for the new Denver Mint.
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That is not a D.
The mintmark is 08 and 09 only and is located below wreath reverse.
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 Posted 06/19/2015  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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What type of Die was used for the bronze planchets versus the prior copper planchets?

Tool steel just like they used for all their coins.
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