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Should I Break Out The Roman Silver ?

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 Posted 06/23/2015  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
You can always do it maņana.
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 Posted 06/23/2015  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list

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I do hope that if and when the time comes to sell this thing ex Ancientnoob is more important to the coin than the slab
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Anyone who doesn't understand the significance of "Ancientnoob" doesn't deserve the coin anyway.
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 Posted 06/23/2015  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list

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Anyone who doesn't understand the significance of "Ancientnoob" doesn't deserve the coin anyway.


I am tempted to put that in my signature.


Here is a reshoot of my Kanishka didrachm, because I know how much like high grade Kushan coins...



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06/23/2015 7:19 pm
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 Posted 06/23/2015  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BullionPirate to your friends list
I voted to keep it slabbed. I will probably never pay to have a coin slabbed, but when I come across one that I like that's slabbed I don't see much of a point of breaking it out... I have other coins I could hold.

But either way why not try to keep the case/grading in tact and store it with the coin. I know it wouldn't be "official," but if you went to sell it around here it would be archived with it... I know i'd appreciate having the grading/attributing as weak as it may be
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 Posted 06/23/2015  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list
Beautiful Kushan, Nate. I love it. Thanks for posting.
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 Posted 06/23/2015  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
That is a super Kushan.
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 Posted 06/23/2015  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
indeed...that kushan coin is sweet. nice new pic!
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 Posted 06/24/2015  06:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list
Um.. not meaning to threadjack too much, but could someone please explain "smoothing" to me?

Just (in my limited experience of hammered coins, which are of course admittedly different) the appearance of AncientNoobs coin (the lack of 'crispness' to the legend letters, rounding of the image detail) would make me wonder if it wasn't a cast. Now that may be a result of silvering (these are base metal that's then silvered, yes?) or ...

Just trying to understand here! (And if it makes a difference, since it looks like a cast copy to me I'd say keep the slab .. though even with the slab, with my current knowledge, I'd pass on it I'm afraid.)

Tom
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The coin itself is not a silver 'wash' type coin but in fact made of good silver. The silver wash types had become standard since the time of Aurelian. The economic problems and wild inflation of the late third century had led to the virtual disappearance of silver from the coinage in circulation. Periodic attempts to reintroduce silver coin were futile. People would not use them but kept them rat holed away. The "billon" coinage had fallen to around 5% silver and the silver wash served to remind people that these AE's were about as good as it was going to get ! The silver wash came in varying degrees of thickness but would not have measured thicker than a few microns. The technique used is uncertain but probably involved heating and 'pickeling' the coins to cause the silver to leech out and form a new surface coating.

Smoothing involves taking a small implement shaped like a shoe horn or a spoon and using the curved face to rub the rough surfaces and create an even surface. It is a form of polishing and better suited to making jewelry than coin conservation.
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 Posted 06/24/2015  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
TG-

Thanks for asking. As FR stated this is not a "silvered" coin but rather an uncommon silver coin. It would the situation of this c oin would have been the same if the silver dollar was reintroduced to our coinage. I dubt anyone would spend the silver dollar but rather hoard it and the denomination would fail.

Ancientnoob doesn't buy cast coins, unless they were originally cast. Asian round coins with square hole, Yaudeya Republic tetradrachms, etc.

Here is a good read if your interested...

http://www.ngccoin.com/news//viewar...f-Diocletian
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 Posted 06/24/2015  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list
Cool! Thanks for the explanation guys! (Shame someone would do that to a coin though!)

And no, I didn't think you'd buy a copy, unless it was a contemporary one with historic significance! It was just the coin looked odd to me and I was interested as to why!

T
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 Posted 06/24/2015  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
BTW-Tom,
We don't see you over here that often, I am pleased to have seen you post in my thread. You just wait till I get a Chuck Shilling!
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 Posted 06/24/2015  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CSOTUS to your friends list
I say leave it in the slab. A coin that old deserves to be in a nice display.
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 Posted 06/27/2015  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list
If you are planning to keep it for some years I personally would remove it from the slab. but its a personal preference I think..
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 Posted 06/28/2015  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augustus1 to your friends list
If you want to sell it, leave it in the slab. If you want to enjoy it, break it out. I'd say the surface is better than a "1" and it is impossible to appreciate a coin for what it is when it is in a slab. Everyone sees the grade and numbers first. They see the plastic before the see the coin. If you think having a rare denomination is cool and owning a late silver piece of am important Roman emperor is special, break it out so you can see the coin. The slab is camoflage that hides the real thing.
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