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Pillar of the Community
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Your welcome. Another time, S A, I have to go now.
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MD. Almost looks like the lighting potentially.
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To clarify, SilverStackerKid is trying to tell you the correct spelling of Doubled Die. The term has a "D" at the end of "Doubled." You spelled it "Double Die." A Doubled Die has doubling right on the die as the result of a a misalignment of images during hubbing. Die Deterioration Doubling ( DDD), which is what I think you see on your coin, is also on the die but is the result of premature die fatigue due to improper heat treat of the dies (during hardening) or due to die wear which causes the carbon in the steel (which makes the steel harder than iron alone) dissipate (called decarburization). DDD occurs after the die was created during its use. You can learn more about Decarburization here: http://www.asminternational.org/doc...f6f/23559195
Edited by koinpro 07/04/2015 09:36 am
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Thank you CoinHuntingDrew and Koinpro. I appreciate it.
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Also thank you for correcting me on the Double(d) Die
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Bedrock of the Community
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It is a later die state when your coin was struck. But when you look at the left top side of the 9 and 6, you can see a distortion on those devices. I refer to this as metal striation. When you move a knife in peanut butter sliding it side ways, you can see the edge irregularities transferred on the peanut butter. Those are striation lines on the edge of the knife causing this distortion. On a strike if the die pushes sideways you can see these.  Those little lines are the edge of the metal on the die. That is what I'm seeing on your coin. A later die state coin and machine damage during the strike.
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Rest in Peace
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RE: the 6
To me it looks like the circular portion is tall and somewhat seperate from the stem of the numeral. However, perhaps it only appears that way because of the lighting.
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Usually Die Deterioration flows towards the rim. So that is why I speculated it to be MD.
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Thank you Coop and Buddy. I'm sorry it took me so long to respond, we had a family emergency over the weekend.
So maybe because of the lighting maybe it's appearing different than what it truly is?
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Thank you SilverStackerKid. If it's machine doubled, would that be a error coin? Also should I try taking another picture in a different light?
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Sorry, meant machine damaged not machine doubled.
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Edited by oih82w8 07/08/2015 6:48 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Machine doubling-Machine damage-Studder Strike-Ejection doubling-mechanical doubling are all the same thing. I prefer machine damaged as it is not doubling in the sense I view doubling. It seems to give some the license to sell using that term on ebay. Many get taken for a rind on that term there. So I call it what it is. Machine damage to the coin. (I guess it is the realist in me)
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Thank you oih82w8. Thank you also Coop. I'm learning :) Machine Doubling, machine damage I got a little confused. Thank you for explaining that. I appreciate it.
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