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Fake Morgan From China On Ebay.

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 Posted 07/30/2015  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
Right. I'm calling 911 to report it. Or maybe I should call the Treasury Department. ebay is an exchange and caveat emptor. The seller in this case, by saying that it's copper and made in China, is telling everyone that it's a fake. Granted, the advertising is semi-fraudulent, but I don't think it constitutes a federal case. Especially over something that costs less than a flashlight.

The people with the jars and old bank rolls bother me a lot more. They have a clear intent to defraud even though they're using real coins.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 07/30/2015  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerseyben to your friends list
Glad to see I'm not the only one tired of seeing posts like this...
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 Posted 07/30/2015  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list

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The seller in this case, by saying that it's copper and made in China, is telling everyone that it's a fake. Granted, the advertising is semi-fraudulent, but I don't think it constitutes a federal case. Especially over something that costs less than a flashlight.


I think you're missing the point. Once such are let loose in the secondary market, will similar disclosure be necessarily made? Or will somebody else down the road, probably a noob to the hobby, get ripped off for a considerably higher price? This worldwide distribution of this kind of junk is very much to be exposed and fought tooth and nail, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one here who feels this way.


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Glad to see I'm not the only one tired of seeing posts like this...


Title says it all, you're perfectly free to pass it by and not open it. But I'll remark once more that perhaps the powers that be in this forum ought to seriously consider establishing a "Counterfeits and Forgeries" category as a clearinghouse for this sort of information.
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07/30/2015 10:29 am
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 Posted 07/30/2015  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Glad to see I'm not the only one tired of seeing posts like this.


Yes, let's hide our heads in the sand and pretend this problem doesn't exist.

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 Posted 07/30/2015  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
Yes we all agree its a problem Dave. Some of us are tired of having our heads pounded into the sand about it. Start a Counterfeits category and take the discussion over there.

The tone in Foreign Coins is a lot different. Early counterfeits are avidly collected.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 07/30/2015  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list

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The tone in Foreign Coins is a lot different. Early counterfeits are avidly collected.


You're talking of course about the 18th & 19th century Spanish/Mexican coins, generally in the 8 reales denomination, for which contemporary counterfeits and restrikes are a field worthy of research & numismatic interest. However, even with respect to that genre, very deceptive modern forgeries, mostly originating in China, are polluting the marketplace and have become a cause for concern.

Examples: http://www.ebay.com/sch/6_98979/m.h...047675.l2562
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 Posted 07/30/2015  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list
Lucky has a good point, I think it's time for a counterfeit sub-category.

I know where I'll be 98% of the time LOL..
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 Posted 07/30/2015  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kakaratt77 to your friends list
CoinHuntingDrew, you should mention this in the Suggestions topic on CCF, maybe Bobby will consider it.
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 Posted 07/30/2015  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mally27 to your friends list
I'm glad people post links to fake and altered coins on this forum. I never knew ebay was flooded with so many.
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 Posted 07/30/2015  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OspreyCoins to your friends list
I think we have now established that ebay is not the most reliable coin resource, unless of course you like fake coins and such...
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 Posted 07/30/2015  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Yes we all agree its a problem Dave. Some of us are tired of having our heads pounded into the sand about it. Start a Counterfeits category and take the discussion over there.


Coin Community is here for the new collectors. They need to know how rampant the counterfeiting problem is - it would not be aggravating you if it weren't so common that fakes are found every single day in the marketplace. Our mission is to teach new collectors about these things, and you want us to hide it in a subforum? Nope. Never.

If y'all are annoyed about this, then do something about it. Write the FTC. Contact your Congresscritter. Act. That's the whole point of this - the brighter light we can shine on the problem, the more likely we'll eventually make enough noise to be heard.
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 Posted 07/30/2015  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
Regardless of what happens after I do it, I always report every fake or counterfeit I see on ebay, but I do so only if I am really sure (able to see the mold line on the edge, as an example).

I've seen many times that after I report those lots they are pulled within the same day.

I do think ebay will listen if they are told. They have folks who do nothing all day but take care of such reports.

I've learned a good deal here on these forums about what to watch out for and I'm glad to learn more.

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 Posted 07/30/2015  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list
I'm kind of laughing how people are complaining about this issue.

Just wait until you buy a coin and later end up realizing it's a counterfeit due to your silly mistakes of not analyzing the coin thoroughly enough. Then, the next thing you know you are out a decent bit of money.
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 Posted 07/30/2015  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OspreyCoins to your friends list
At least its only like $6...
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 Posted 08/01/2015  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brian34Jersey to your friends list
I read every one of these fake coin posts they have taught me what to look for
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