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Be that as it may, I pulled it out of the original, unopened mint packaging in that exact condition.
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durkastani,
It doesn't matter if it occurred a split second after the coin was minted or years later and professionally repackaged (as many are). It still is not die polishing.
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It certainly is impaired. I can assure you however that this coin came out of the original sealed mint packaging in this condition. I opened it with my hands. You don't have to believe it and there's certainly no way I can prove it. There are articles that support the condition however that describe how the mint over polished THE COIN of varieties of the Bugs Bunny type causing the disconnected nose. I'm comfortable stating that every clash doesn't resemble Fivas's exactly.
Edited by durkastani 08/18/2015 1:49 pm
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Sorry for the spam. I didn't see that it had become paginated.
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Quote: Apparently it was the custom of the mint at the time to over polish the coin causing a "disconnected nose" effect. You have it backwards. The Mint polishes the dies, not the coins themselves. The hairline scratches seen on your coin are the result of improper handling.
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@durkastani One of the great things about this forum is we have people who are the best in their field. Koinpro is one of the most highly respected error specialists in the hobby. Please understand I am saying the following in a friendly manner with absolutely no criticism. Wondering if koinpro's opinion on die polishing is valid is almost akin to questioning if water is wet.
Whatever the situation on this coin - as biokemist said - the mint polishes the dies. They don't try to track down each clashed coin and polish them. Polishing marks also have a different appearance than those on your half.
I am not doubting you broke it open - but not sure when the damage occurred. And a proof held in hand is considered impaired - which automatically reduces the value. So it is a legit concern to keep in mind for the future.
It would be great to see some closer pics and the teeth if possible.
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I appreciate the concern for the value of my coin. I will try to produce a better picture of the teeth if I can.
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My intent was not to dispute koinpros experience or knowledge. Only to point out the reasons I believe this to be a mint error based on articles on the specific subject of BB Franklins. http://www.ebay.com/gds/1955-Bugs-B...87151/g.html I do appreciate being corrected on my misunderstanding of the polishing process. I can see the logic of polishing the die. In fact, it actually helps me to understand the error and increases my confidence as to the condition of the coin.
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That link is great. There are clash marks but they require magnification to see. The reason being because they polished it so much I would think. His disconnected nose plus the free floating hair and the disconnected collar speak to the extent that this die was polished. The polishing causing the shallow eagle shows why the deformity on the reverse isn't visible as well. I feel super lucky getting this one. Sorry I can't get a better picture. It's just so difficult to get the light, loupe and camera all set up for the right shot.
Edited by durkastani 08/18/2015 11:42 pm
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I decided that since NGC doesn't yet acknowledge this variety that I would pursue other means of validating my coin. I have mailed it to Bill Fivas ;). I'll post the results when it returns.
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It's not a "variety." It's a clashing artifact found on multiple years of issue with a cute name, which is why NGC won't "attribute" it. Clashing, in the absence of other obvious pickups, could be used as an identifying marker for a specific die pair but it isn't qualification for a "variety" one way or the other.
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It's not listed in the NGC Varietyplus section. Variety, clash mark, whatever. They don't recognize it for '52 Franklin proofs on the list yet and I'm not going to pay an extra $15 dollars for a plain grade slab. 
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Fivas however, the person who presented the "discovery piece" of the '52 proof BB will be able to validate it for me now won't he? ;). And it only cost $5 plus shipping.
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Bill, can validate it one way or the other.
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