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Specimen Coin Mintage

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 Posted 06/05/2018  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ridge to your friends list
As long as I'm logged in to this forum, maybe some of you can offer some me advice, or your thoughts regarding my accumulation of Canada large cents. I have 3 to 4 thousands of them, and have been sorting them by years. I have done about half of them.
What would you do to liquidate them ? groups of 10-20 on ebay ?., look through all of them first to find the scarcer varieties, and wholesale the rest in one lump ?
I'm overwhelmed when I sit down in front of my six foot table I use to sort them. I've already pulled out the uncs and slabbed them, but the idea of missing out on a rare variety if I was to sell the entire lot is something only a hoarder like myself can understand.
I dont 'need' the money, and I'm in no danger of kicking off in the next few months, so... whattaido ?
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 Posted 06/05/2018  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Get a copy of the 2011 Charlton guide that has a large number of large cent varieties in the back. Check and see if you have some of them .. they are priced. Then check out any additional varieties/ID's on this site: http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins-prices.php that will give you some idea of what you have. If you live close to the border, bring them up to Canada to find a buyer via the 4-5 coin sites. There are some dealers in the US who specialize in Canadian large cents (common and scarce) like Dale Schaffer in Tulsa. Or go to the buy and sell of some of the coin sites where you can sell, and not with ebay fees, your coins to fellow collectors .. but you may have to make xxx number of posts or length of membership) before you are eligible.

I also have Vicky large cents in the thousands and a fellow hoarder. I just like to look at them and help others. I'm game if you are selling Vickies.
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 Posted 06/05/2018  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list
With that many Canadian large cents I would take Okie's advise first by trying to find a 2011 Canadian Charlton coin book 65th edition it has a big section in the back of it with 80 or more different large cent varieties. Then second I would go through book for the years with said varieties that you may or may not have in your hoard.

Good luck and Happy Hunting
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 Posted 06/05/2018  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list
Wow, that sounds like a pretty neat collection you have, I look forward to seeing some pictures.

If it was me, I would think about a few key questions first.

a) How much time do you want to spend sorting/selling?
b) If you don't "need" the money, will you try to maximize return (long game), dispose at a reasonable price or bulk sell at low price to get rid of them?

If you are going for medium/longtime sale, a copy of Charelton,as other have said, is a must.

1. Sorting by year is good and I would identify which years are the more valuable ones/cost benefit of time searching/examining vs. value. (eg. 1858, 1859, 1881, 1891 etc...)
2. I would then roughly grade them into piles G-F, VF-XF, AU/MS.
3. Pull out any high value coins (whatever that effort/value threshold is for you) and sell individually (maybe TPG if really valuable)
4. Make some interesting date sets by monarch out of the lower grades and sell them on ebay at a fixed price/make offer
5. Whatever is left over, sell in bulk, with 3-4k coins you can probably make quite a few interesting sets.

Have fun with that, I am a little jealous, I have always wanted to pour over something like that, it must be fascinating. There is a lot of good advice and ideas on this forum, it has really helped me figure things out over the last few years.
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 Posted 06/05/2018  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list
And if you have time, get your post count up to you can contact people directly (I don't remember if it is post count or preference, but your email contact is not active in the forum), from the sounds of your collection, there would be some interest in this forum on the Specimen coins, myself included, and the large cents are always popular
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 Posted 06/05/2018  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list

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but the idea of missing out on a rare variety

if you post clear photos that can be enlarged on ebay we wont miss any varieties lol
the coin will sell itself
there are few of us that have a passion for collecting vickys some already posting in this thread.
i too would be intersted in them as well
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 Posted 06/05/2018  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
regarding the original post about specimen set mintages..they are very hard to figure out..sadly there was little recording done if any..but for the 37 matte sets, there were 1000 produced and I don't believe coins were issued in single piece format..the same goes for the 1937 mirror sets although there were from my understanding, only 75 sets produced.


@ridge sounds like some really great stuff...if you do sell off things i'd love to know when. 1953 specimens have always been a serious interest of mine
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 Posted 06/06/2018  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KHatt to your friends list


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if you post clear photos that can be enlarged on ebay we wont miss any varieties lol


I agree. I've been trying to cherry pick a few varieties from photos and apparently other people do this too, because everytime I find one I get wildly outbid (I normally set my bid limit around 50% catalog value).
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 Posted 06/09/2018  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JHax to your friends list
Regarding the pre-1954 specimen sets, the only sets for which there are official mintage figures are 1908, 1911, 1912 (the gold), 1937 (the matte sets sold in the red cardboard boxes through the Bank of Canada) and 1953. The 1911 set is interesting, because the original mintage was the same as the 1908, but the sales were sluggish and something like 3/4 of them were mixed in with the regular coin and issued for circulation!

In the other years the sets were made in very small quantities and were unofficially available to Mint visitors and certain other people. No accounts were kept.
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 Posted 06/09/2018  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
thanks for the info JHax! that's really interesting to hear about the 1911..

also ridge, would you shoot me an email through the forum? i'd love to talk
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 Posted 06/10/2018  01:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JHax to your friends list
I should also add that those early Ottawa special strikings, even when there were two versions as in 1937, were officially called specimens (and not proofs). The same can be said for the 19th and early 20th century Royal Mint specimens.
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 Posted 06/21/2018  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ridge to your friends list
Thank you everybody for the advice on the large cents., I'm gonna see if I can find that book on ebay and just look for the better varieties, am not gonna live long enough to look through every one of them. I also have a couple thousand old copper Canadian tokens that I would like to research.
...I'm trying to figure out how to post a picture on here., I dont see anywhere to click on to attach a picture ?
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 Posted 06/21/2018  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ridge to your friends list
I was telling you guys about my 1970 specimen in black case set a couple weeks ago., I finally had a chance to go to the bank and pull it out to photograph is.., I also had a few other interesting pieces that I will attempt to post on here.
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 Posted 06/21/2018  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
i look forward to seeing
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 Posted 06/22/2018  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list

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I also had a few other interesting pieces that I will attempt to post on here.


It may be better if you start a thread of your own for your coins. It may bring more attention to it and will help you out a little more.

as for posting pictures, here are some instructions: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...g-images.asp
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