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Sacagawea Shattered Die - Multi Struck - Broadstruck

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 Posted 12/29/2015  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
Hmph...reaching for the stars on the price, no?

Cool coin though.
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 Posted 12/29/2015  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dp082804 to your friends list
Wow! Cool!
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 Posted 12/29/2015  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin_kid to your friends list
Too pricey for my taste.
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 Posted 12/29/2015  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Are Sacs sold in bulk bags?
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 Posted 12/29/2015  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 11997755 to your friends list
Very cool but I have basically have the same question as uruman.
How does something like this get out of the mint, and if it doesn't get out legitimately....Is it really an error?
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 Posted 12/29/2015  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list

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Very cool but I have basically have the same question as uruman.
How does something like this get out of the mint, and if it doesn't get out legitimately....Is it really an error?


That is what I do not like about coins like this. I see no way it legally left the mint. So a buyer would be purchasing what amounts to as a stolen coin. Cool factor is great, but collectable? I guess there are those that collect stolen art as well.
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 Posted 12/29/2015  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
This Sac should be in a body bag.
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 Posted 12/29/2015  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Are Sacs sold in bulk bags?

Yes they were, they were also shipped out in Ballistic Bags that were filled by weight. This could have gotten out that way and then recovered at a firm that rolled the coins under contract with the Fed or banks. There are also large dealerships that buy Ballistic Bags directly from the mint and do their own rolling. So it is possible for it to have gotten out legitimately.
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 Posted 12/30/2015  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list
The bags you are referring to are sold by count not weight. They are bags with 140,000 of Sac Dollars. And being that they are sold by count, they would have to go through a counter. Which I do not believe that the coin in question could pass.
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 Posted 12/30/2015  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Wouldn't this coin fall through a riddlier and just get into a bulk bag and was found by the rolling companies or bulk purchase by a huge dealer.
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 Posted 12/30/2015  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list
From what I have been told they actually go through a coin counter, this is a quality control in place to ensure each bag has the correct amount of coins in it.
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 Posted 12/30/2015  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I was thinking the bins were started in 2001. So it may have slipped through in a bag. Jon Sullivan is one of the experts on error coins. So it is probably a legit error.
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 Posted 12/30/2015  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list
I tend to think that the TPG's have a double standard when it comes to certification of errors that may have been intentionally released by mint employees. For example if a Fred Weinberg or Jon Sullivan personally submitted such an error for certification, I imagine they would have a much better chance at getting it in a slab than if an adverage collector submitted it. Note, I don't place any fault at the error dealers in this, its the TPG's themselves that are discriminatory against the little guys. In my own opinion, the TPGs should place no regard in whether or not something was intentionally released, because at the end of the day they have virtually no means of actually knowing 100% as to the circumstances that any error was released.
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 Posted 12/31/2015  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BJ Neff to your friends list
I agree with Coop on this one and believe that the coin is a legitimate error. In the past there have been more than a few very odd errors that have come from the mint. Remember the Madison dollar struck on a dime planchet. Or how about the "pine cone" piles of coins that were fused together by repeated strikes.

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 Posted 12/31/2015  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list
I have no doubt it is a legitimate error. I just question the legality of it's exit from the mint.
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