1923 KGV Nickel Near 3 Far 3 5 Cent -- New Variety?

The sellers is very poor at making an accurate line in their pics I see no difference IMO.
Hows the KGV nickel hunt going Bill? I checked the few 23s I have but no difference there either.

wow so maybe a new variation do to a change of dies, or die wear.nice

Thanks everyone for their opinions so far. Given that we have recognized different hubs used for 1926 and 1932, I think that it is totally possible that there are at least two different hubs used in 1923 (and maybe other years too - for example, I sometimes think I see a different looking 22s in 1922 but the difference is so slight that I usually give up and say what I'm seeing is Die Deterioration leading to smushy numbers. It's on my to do list to recheck this one day).

As I mentioned in my initial post I think I see the difference with 6x magnification and Castor's overlay appears to confirm that a difference exists.

But like the old men Statler and Waldorf said on the Muppet Show once, "The question is who cares?"

At this point, I'm not excited about it. What I need 5centscanada or someone else to do is show us how uncommon this variety is and if possible have a story go with it.

For me the 1932 Far meets this requirement. Personally, I came to the hunt for 1932 Far 2 late in the game as I didn't start collecting until 2014. I've read the historical posts for the 1932 Far 2 on this site and they are very interesting. I enjoy hunting for 1932 Far 2s. All the ones I've seen have the same die crack coming off the S of CENTS which suggests it is a single die (which originally was the specimen die for the year). I'm finding it hard to cherry pick them and I haven't cherry picked one since June of 2015 -- who's finding them all! My point here is that the 1932 Far 2 is an uncommon variety while the 1923 Far/Near 3 hasn't proved itself yet as being uncommon. And even if it did, I doubt it will excite many collectors because it is not very easy to see. Personally I'd rather have a big visible die crack than this hard to see hub difference.

@pennyman007 - Not much to report on the KGV 5 cent front except I bought a nice raw 1934 with all 8 pearls showing which I'd like to say is MS64 but I might be seriously deceiving myself. More exciting for me was finding a 1953 SF FL mule in what I grade as AU50 in a mixed lot of KGV & KGVI 5 cents I bought a few weeks ago. It's the first one of these I ever found and I was really happy, for a day or two. In the same lot there were also a couple of 1936 in ICCS AU condition and a handful of 1937 in MS. Normally I get stuck with bulk lots of just VG/F coins. Thanks for asking :-)

The differences are so minor with this coin, it is hardly relevant.

I think it is interesting. My question is that with the 4 variations would there be a space difference from the S in cents to the rim also?

This reminds me of the 1929 one cent - the high 9 and low 9 and somewhere in between.

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I read the posts on 5centscanada this weekend. It's interesting that on the francophone site this variety (or should I say varieties) has/have been discussed on and off for the past few years.

numidan really did give us a Full House of 4 different positions for the 3 to think about. For me this makes me want to better understand the use of hubs and dies in the 1920s.

Specifically, when did the date get punched/engraved? On individual working dies - then there are probably a ton of different positions of the 3? Or more likely on the Master die? But does it make sense that 4+ master dies were needed for 1923? I have no clue to how many working hubs could be made from a master die and how many working die can be made from each working hub.

A NASA saying I heard once was "The harder you look, the more you'll find." I wonder if someone looks harder at the 4s of 1924 or the last 2 of 1922 whether we'll see other date varieties like 1923 looks like it has.

If we forget about the rotation and we focus on the near 3 from the rim, there's the difference on those two pictures. I think It's more than a micro difference. It's easy to detect without a magnifying glass !