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Pillar of the Community
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United States
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Is it just me, or does it look cleaned?
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Is it just me, or does it look cleaned? gold shows natural handling hairlines a lot easier than silver typecoin, you dont think MS61 even? is lighting washout looking like high point friction? |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'll go with AU-58. Seems clearly to have been handled.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Somewhere between AU55 and low MS. I'd have to see it but am leaning AU+ and a possible cleaning from the images.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Handled yes, but I don't see any wear on the high points, so has to be some sort of low MS grade.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I see no wear, but there's a lot of chatter going on. MS61.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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AU-55 at best.
The grading services can be really tough on these coins. I have a 1900 dated piece with no wear, virtually mark free with satiny surfaces, which NGC only graded MS-62. I have another that looks like an MS-64+ that PCGS graded MS-63. Maybe "grade-flation" will net you more, but a Mint State grade is not in this coin's future.
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Pillar of the Community
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Maybe "grade-flation" will net you more, but a Mint State grade is not in this coin's future. So what you're saying is that if this comes back at MS61 it will be a complete mistake on the part of the TPG? |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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So much "activity" in the fields coupled with the diminished luster means it's AU. Wear often cannot be seen in images since it's usually more high point luster breaks than physical wear at high AU grades.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Give me a sharp, PQ AU58 over a banged-up MS61 any day, gold or not. This coin would sell all day at AU, good luck if it comes back as a 61 or 62. To me, AU58 & MS63-MS64 are the sweet spots for gold.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The original images from seller appear over sharpen, and the images you took are out of focus.
It would be hard to give an honest opinion. AU or MS, clean or not clean.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm still at MS61 or MS62 on this one, don't really think either grade would be much of a difference in price anyways.
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Quote: So what you're saying is that if this comes back at MS61 it will be a complete mistake on the part of the TPG?] Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Your second and third sets of pictures show plenty of wear in the fields. There is enough wear to take it well out of the AU-58 grade. Maybe some third rate grading service will call this coin Mint State, but I don't think that ANACS and ICG would, and I know darn well NGC and PCGS wouldn't. Edited by billjones
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