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 Posted 09/09/2016  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NoPoMoCo to your friends list
If a fingerprint on a coin could be certified as belonging to a famous person, that would probably bring a premium. I've never seen one however.
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 Posted 09/09/2016  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list

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Different point to make here about the coin, the obverse is pretty nice, if this coin were dipped and re holdered would the eye appeal be nicer? Would the print disappear if the coin were dipped?
PS I have never dipped and certified a coin, or resubmitted a coin, just curious about people's thoughts on this...


I'm curious about this as well. But I don't think it would increase the eye appeal because I'd guess both the frosty cameo and the fingerprint would disappear, covered by the telltale artificial blast white appearance of the dip?
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 Posted 09/09/2016  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alex A to your friends list
I have a coin similar to the one in the picture. Unfortunately it is in the original RCM capsule and took many years for the fingerprint to appear.
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 Posted 09/09/2016  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list
I think it comes down to eye appeal and/or possible surface damage. This wouldn't be a good example but I've seen some very cool older finger printed coins that toned really cool without affecting the surface that probably wouldn't loose a point in the grading process. However I could see a "mental" MS65 limit for Canadian coins because of it. As always, I like technical grading. Just because you don't like the coin or it's the ugly duckling, it doesn't make it a 64. Market value of such a coin is a whole different story.
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 Posted 09/09/2016  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list





Dipping will not remove the fingerprint that's likely been there for half a century.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 09/09/2016  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Talonbat to your friends list
Coin hunter really hit the nose on the head. Looks like a 65 just super ugly with no eye appeal. I prefer technical grading over market grading any day. Prices however are very different.
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 Posted 09/09/2016  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
I prefer nice looking over either technical or market grading. The OP coin is without reservations a DOG.
ICCS dollar grading is sliiiiiiipppppiiiinnngggg.
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 Posted 09/13/2016  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thrustie to your friends list
I guess it depends what your after. A blast white dipped coin that looks like a simoniz has been taken to it, or a natural coin with untouched fields and devices. Unfortunately many times the untouched coins have very unappealing toning/blemishes.
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 Posted 09/13/2016  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Yes, but eye appeal has to mean something
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 Posted 09/14/2016  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twoods to your friends list
I am starting to feel so bad about this coin I will probably buy it! ha
Mostly kidding about bidding on the coin but it seems the concensus is that it is a bad coin...either way, hopefully for whoever buys it the fingerprint will be already discounted in the price, and possibly it sets a floor price to compare against other nicer looking 65s
Also, I wanted to say it's a neat point mentioned earlier that some fingerprints lead to nice toning, let's hope this one continues to tone and somehow turns out nice one day.
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 Posted 09/18/2016  11:07 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
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welcome to the twilight zone how could it sell for so much? nice looking examples usually don't even fetch this much!
Feel free to call me Will.
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 Posted 09/18/2016  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add McNickel to your friends list

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how could it sell for so much?

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 Posted 09/18/2016  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Auctions are sometimes surprises, bidders get caught up in the moment
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 Posted 09/18/2016  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
The bidders probably think the fingerprint belongs to Elvis
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 Posted 09/18/2016  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list
True....The average for a 67 MS-65 has been $180-$220 lately. Trends at $450 which just shows you how how saturated the Canadian market is with common coins even in high grade. Saying that, I wouldn't be surprised of the 67 coins get a bit of a bump in 2017.
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