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cwb, that looks very similar. If it helps, I have two more 1960-d's with slight indication in this direction. Since they're all from the same collection, I'm led to believe that the '60s were all the from the same mint roll with each getting successively worse.
If that's the case, I don't see a lamination error occuring in the exact same spot across the four getting slowly worse.
I'll post pics of the other two in line with the 60s already seen.
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The first two 1960-D coins you have already posted images of look like they are from the same die. Post the others if you have more.
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If that's the case, I don't see a lamination error occuring in the exact same spot across the four getting slowly worse. You're right, a lamination would be unique. The 1960-D cents are definitely not lamination errors. Since you have four of them, most likely from the same die, they must be struck through something. It will be interesting to see the others and see if they show the same die scratches as these two.  |
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In these latest images, the 9 of the date doesn't look moved as it did in the first photos.
I think they were struck through a chunk of debris that stuck to the die and as more coins were struck, it flattened out until it was eventually no longer noticeable.
If that is the case, you have them pictured in reverse order. Maybe someone with more knowledge of the striking process can shed a better light on it.
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@cwb I think you're right, the deepest impression is the most contained. You can see that it spread between the fourth and third pic but left a shallower trough. That makes a lot more sense, I didn't think it through enough.
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What is the weight of you coin? If it is under a bit, I would think lamination. But if it is normal, it might be a struck through error with a partial amount of grease in the die. What made me think of that is the area above the date. In the next to last image, the die scratches appear to be filled in with perhaps grease. (next to last image) So depending on the weight of the coin, you will have your answer. Light, Lamination. Normal, Struck Through Grease error. |
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spruett001 I sent you an email regarding these photos.
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I weighed all five (four 60s and the 59) and they all came in at 3.1g except the 60 with the most fingerprints at 3.2g. I compared that to an UNC 1960-d and it was 3.0g. I'm assuming that's all within normal tolerances.
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3.11 is the target weight and they all seem to be close. Not every cent weighs exactly the same and not every scale shows the same accuracy.
They are not laminations, the odds of finding 4 coins with the same die markers and showing a similar lamination in the same area are non-existent.
Something was stuck on the die.
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I guess now I can place them as a succession of strike-throughs from the same die. Thanks to everyone for your help!
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Very nice finds! That's pretty cool that you found them with these Struck Throughs! It was Struck Through Grease by the looks of it. Errers and Varietys.
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These four look exceedingly familiar, spruett001.. Do you know if these are the ones Coop used on his site to illustrate a struck-through-grease progression..? Coop..? Thanks..
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No. But looking at them now, I'm convinced to see that it was a lamination issue. The coin may have been on the plus side in weight, but now slightly less. So I now feel it was a lamination issue.
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