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Second coin is actually Galba, LIBERTAS PVBLICA reverse. Maybe a dupondius but here is a sestertius so you can see the type  Edited by Biancasdad
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I'll concur with Galba on the second coin... it's rough, but coins of his are always in demand, since he was in power for only a few months. Nice find!
Last one is tough... I am leaning toward Vespasian based on the shape of the head. Titus also looked about the same. Or, if I am misinterpreting what I am seeing, it could be Agrippa or Germanicus.
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The first coin is a Roman Republic Semis, Bust of Jupiter and ship prow.
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Quote:It's difficult to say from what time period the Roman Republic is from. I'd say circa 200 - 150 BC. Here is link that might help you with a better date. http://davy.potdevin.free.fr/Site/crawford1.html Thank you echizento for the info and link! I looked through all the lists and the only one that matches the description is Crawford 41/6e. When I went searching for images, however, it does not look like my coin. From what I can tell, on the obverse is a laureate head of Saturn facing right with S behind, and on the reverse is the prow of a ship facing right with S above and ROMA below. Am I missing something extra on the design, or is there another Crawford number that would fit this specific variety?  |
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Just want to give this a bump in hopes of learning some more  For the first coin: Quote:
From what I can tell, on the obverse is a laureate head of Saturn facing right with S behind, and on the reverse is the prow of a ship facing right with S above and ROMA below. Am I missing something extra on the design, or is there another Crawford number that would fit this specific variety? For the second coin, how do I identify the denomination? I can't seem to find another Galba with a left-facing bust. It is 27mm vertically (measuring from edge above bust to edge below bust) and 26mm horizontally (measuring from edge left of bust to edge right of bust). For the third coin: Quote:
The third is 26.5mm and on the obverse at 9 o'clock I can read maybe EAD or ERD. The E could possibly be an L or a sigma. I can also make out a pointed nose clearly at 9 o'clock on the bust. At 12 o'clock I can read either OC or OF, then an illegible letter, then PAV(?). Any pointers to determine the ruler and denomination? Thank you everyone!  |
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Bumping this thread to hopefully get some more answers to my questions in the above post |
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Ancients are not like moderns. A lot of stuff is undocumented.
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Ancients are not like moderns. A lot of stuff is undocumented. Of course, I completely understand, and I thank everyone for their earlier opinions. I know only what I've learned about ancients from this forum  The few questions I have, however, I believe are answerable questions based upon those asked by others on the forum. For the first coin, am I missing something extra on the design? I see on the obverse is a laureate head of Saturn facing right with S behind, and on the reverse is the prow of a ship facing right with S above and ROMA below. For the second coin, does anyone have any pointers to help identify the denomination? Similarly for the third coin, any pointers to determine the ruler and denomination? |
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for the second coin , check the weight : sestertius=20/30 gr - about 35 mm , dupondius 11/15 gr - about 29 mm, as : 9/12 gr - about 27 mm . albert
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The style of the ships prow on your coin is not like that of Crawford 41/6e, in my opinion. It looks to me like a slightly later struck issue, Crawford 56/3 http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/rsc/...rd_056-3.jpgThe problem here is size, and your earlier description of diameter is inconsistent. Your obverse measure is the size of 41/e, but your reverse measurement is consistent with 56/3. How did you measure the diameter? If you have a caliper graduated in mm, try taking two readings from the outside edge, one at the widest separation across the coin, the other at the smallest. If it is truly round, take measurements that differ by 90degrees of rotation. Please give us those numbers. |
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for the second coin , check the weight : sestertius=20/30 gr - about 35 mm , dupondius 11/15 gr - about 29 mm, as : 9/12 gr - about 27 mm I sadly do not have access to a scale, but its diameter (26-27mm) fits with the as. Quote:
The problem here is size, and your earlier description of diameter is inconsistent. Your obverse measure is the size of 41/e, but your reverse measurement is consistent with 56/3. How did you measure the diameter? If you have a caliper graduated in mm, try taking two readings from the outside edge, one at the widest separation across the coin, the other at the smallest. If it is truly round, take measurements that differ by 90degrees of rotation. Please give us those numbers. My very first measurements on Christmas Eve were approximate and not accurate. The second measurements are accurate. I only have access to a ruler, and the rim is not vertical or straight but rather graduated or slanted, growing slightly more narrow from obverse to reverse:  On the reverse, from 12 o'clock (top of S) to 6 o'clock, I measured 27mm; from 9 o'clock (rear of ship) to 3 o'clock, I measured 26mm. Both measurements were taken from the top of the slant, as indicated approximately by the red line:  On the obverse, from 12 o'clock (top of bust) to 6 o'clock, I measured 29mm; from 9 o'clock (left of bust) to 3 o'clock, I measured just a hair over 29mm. Both measurements were taken from the bottom of slant, as indicated approximately by the red line:  I hope that helps! *Edited to remove incorrect image Edited by CollegeBarbers
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I hate to resurrect an old thread, but I'm still looking for some clarification. For the semis, Irbguy asked: Quote:
The problem here is size, and your earlier description of diameter is inconsistent. Your obverse measure is the size of 41/e, but your reverse measurement is consistent with 56/3. How did you measure the diameter? If you have a caliper graduated in mm, try taking two readings from the outside edge, one at the widest separation across the coin, the other at the smallest. If it is truly round, take measurements that differ by 90degrees of rotation. Please give us those numbers. I provided the answers in the above post. Would they fit best with 41/e or 56/3? For the second coin, I cannot seem to find a left-facing Galba as. Any pointers to identify its RIC number? Thank you in advance! |
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