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Hints of rub, more strongly noted on obverse. Lines on obverse top are roller marks, I believe.
All.The little tiny scratches appear to be die polishing.
AU-53. A super hard coin to nail down.
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Lines on top of obverse look like a fingerprint to me.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I saw this one a week ago. So I won't guess. Pretty interesting I thought at the time.
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wg\hat did this get from TPG? |
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Well, it's a proof ... anybody want to revote before the reveal?
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01/08/2017 7:25 pm
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PR-53
Did you buy this one?
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PR62 was my first thought, guess I'll stick with it then.
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Sure looks like it has some wear, particularly on the reverse stars. Hard to see the lack of star radials as strike weakness considering the OP stated it is a proof. Obverse marks look like fingerprints and there are ticks and scratches that can't all be attributed to die polish. Fields don't have much in the way of original mirror surface.
I'd go with PF-53.
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The answer is PF50, yes 50... Yes, it will be very interesting to have it in-hand and take my own photos... and figure out why the heck they called it a proof instead of XF details. I'm guessing in part that it's just a percentage game - out of a mintage of 1,000 business strikes the estimated survival (all grades) is 100. But out of a proof mintage of 950, the estimated survival (all grades) is 650.  -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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why the heck they called it a proof instead of XF details. Expert graders can usually find the die markers that allow one to distinguish between a proof and business strike. This piece presumably has been positively identified as a proof by NGC. It has seen circulation but is not cleaned or significantly damaged so it warrants a no-problem numerical grade consistent with the level of wear. |
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Flynn and Zack don't have records of how many dies were used but they do report the same die used for. Otherwise (I think has a distinctive RPD).
With the mintage of just 1,000 business strikes + 950 proofs it's likely there was just the one else pair.
With estimated survival of 100 business strikes and 650 proofs, the odds are any random coin is a proof. The proof (pardon the pun) would be in the artifacts like squared off rims from using the press in the medal room.
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My guess would be PR-50. I don't think that PCGS would have graded it with that punch mark on the star.
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