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Soak in acetone over night, see if it changes color. Think they are doctored. Three seems a bit odd. I see pressure markings from 4-6 o"clock on obverse and matching on reverse. If these were put into a vise with a penny then ground to size, treated with a raising solution to bring the copper up to the surface, bingo! Yea, I'm a big skeptic when it comes to error coins, thriving business on ebay...  Treat with Coca-Cola over nite, see what happens, real easy to change the surface properties of combined metals... Edited by Crazyb0
05/03/2017 11:42 pm
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Treat with Coca-Cola over nite, see what happens Sorry Crazyb0 but, don't take this advice. That would potentially destroy a $150+ coin. Only non-destructive methods (like acetone as mentioned) should be used to verify this. In the end, it may take sending them off to fully authenticate. XRF analysis would help if you have any access to that (I know other members do). Compared to other slabbed examples I've looked at, the color and size look correct and the weight you mentioned is obviously right. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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Edited by John1
05/04/2017 04:39 am
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DO NOT CLEAN THEM IN ANY MANNER. Looks real to me. ANACS bound!
John1 Good solid advice and I agree looks very authentic |
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Thanks for all of the helpful and encouraging comments.
I noticed that ppl are saying to send to ANACS I assume that is a cost saving suggestion. I am planning a big NGC grading party sometime very soon. Would it be wise to still send these (or just one of them) to ANACS or would you say to send them all to NGC?
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If you are going to send a bunch of coins to NGC then go ahead and include these. You will get a bit more when you sell them if they are slabbed NGC instead of ANACS, John1  |
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That looks like a typical 1980 P die struck that coin. I would spend the money to get all three certified.
Please post pictures of the other two. Protect these coins and don't clean them with anything. Read your grading company choice's instructions for sending them in. get them ready as they tell you to do and when you're ready, pay the fees. I am 98% sure it is legit from the info given here.
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Treat with Coca-Cola over nite, see what happens, real easy to change the surface properties of combined metals... Congratulations on attempting to get someone to destroy a genuine error worth several hundred dollars  There is a big difference between being a skeptic and having no clue what you are talking about... |
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Quote:Soak in acetone over night, see if it changes color. Think they are doctored. Three seems a bit odd. I see pressure markings from 4-6 o"clock on obverse and matching on reverse. If these were put into a vise with a penny then ground to size, treated with a raising solution to bring the copper up to the surface, bingo! Yea, I'm a big skeptic when it comes to error coins, thriving business on ebay... CrazyBo The diameter is not that of a cent and the weight is. This is consistent with a genuine example, and not with your skeptic theory. I am somewhat skeptical as well, and I having it XRFd today. I will update y'all when it comes back. |
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Brought 1 of these in to my friend with the XRF and ....... 95% copper it is.    you may ask why only 1, I assume that - if one they are all-, and this guy often touches my coins in a way that makes me uncomfortable. He knows coins, but takes certain liberties with them that would horrify many of us. I took the poorest struck one, and plan to acetone it when I get home. |
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It is the real deal. The copper planchet is smaller than the nickel die, the devices should fall over the edge. Don't clean. Best to leave valuable coins alone. I have one for my graduation year that a relative gave to me.   |
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The reason it is larger than a cent is because it had room to squeeze outward in the nickel size collar. is larger than a blank cent planchet. Nothing was there when the dies came together to prevent it. It does look like it was close to the collar in that area of the P mint mark.  |
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That is wonderful - Congratulations BigSilver.
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WOW! That's pretty amazing! Congrats!
And don't clean them with anything which could harm them...
CRH Nickeloholic. 1,600,000 nickels searched in eight years! Have found FOUR complete Jefferson sets!
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It's exciting that the XRF returned 95% copper!  I know these were bought in a large lot but, from that, what would you estimate you paid for the three? Of course, now you are obligated to post the results of authentication/grading.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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