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Why Are Junk Silver Halfs More Than Quaters Or Dimes?

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 Posted 07/01/2017  08:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thecoinguy1964 to your friends list
Same reason silver dollars bring a premium, nobody likes the small stuff. I'll take them all day long, at least the Chinese aren't counterfeiting them yet.
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 Posted 07/01/2017  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
thq has the right answer as far as bullion dealers are concerned.
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 Posted 07/01/2017  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aristarchus123 to your friends list

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The smaller coins tend to lose more of their weight as they wear. A half that has lost 2% of its weight is worth more than a quarter that has lost 5%. The effect is seen in large quantities of coins, which are priced closest to bullion.


I did not understand any of this beyond the first sentence. It seems plausible that smaller coins gain wear more quickly, since more of the surface is touched in handling. The second and third sentences here confuse me.
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 Posted 07/01/2017  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list

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Same reason silver dollars bring a premium, nobody likes the small stuff. I'll take them all day long, at least the Chinese aren't counterfeiting them yet.


The only reason for that the Chinese have not made "junk silver" Franklin half dollars is that they can't make a profit from them ... YET.

If the flea market trade gets interested in them, get ready for the "Chinese Bens."
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 Posted 07/01/2017  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
A bullion dealer would simply weigh all coins of the same fineness to get the total ASW, and offer a price accordingly.
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 Posted 07/01/2017  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
You can sell Walkers and Franklins as coins in low grade at a small premium to silver. You can't do the same with Roosevelt dimes or Washington quarters.
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 Posted 07/01/2017  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
thq - Thanks for this helpful info.
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 Posted 07/01/2017  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list

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Same reason silver dollars bring a premium, nobody likes the small stuff. I'll take them all day long, at least the Chinese aren't counterfeiting them yet.


The Chinese can find a way to profit from them, I sure.

The reason the mint has suspended their mutilated and damaged coin return program is that the Chinese (through middlemen) were sending in TONS of counterfeit mutilated coins made in China and were still turning a profit!
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 Posted 07/01/2017  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chevelle7167 to your friends list
I like it all. But mostly collect halves and quarters for the silver content. It's interesting though, when you compare 90% to .999 bullion, the smaller fractionals sell for a huge premium compared to the larger coins. Exact opposite with 90%. I don't understand it
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 Posted 07/02/2017  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
With fractional bullion the processing and minting cost needs to go somewhere. 1/0th oz and 1g rounds will sell at a large premium relative to 100 oz bars. The same is not true of coins as the government absorbs the cost and because they literally make the money, its hidden.
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 Posted 07/02/2017  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
The biggest disounting of all is sterling flatware, which sells for 50-75% of melt depending on quantity and where you sell. The coins have a large resale market that supports their price. But no one hoards sacks of forks. That's where you see the full cost of the melting and reprocessing it takes to make those 999 rounds.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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the Chinese (through middlemen) were sending in TONS of counterfeit mutilated coins made in China and were still turning a profit!

Yes but they were making base metal coins that cost just a few cents apiece and redeeming them for face value.
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 Posted 07/10/2017  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steele to your friends list
the LCS I frequent charges the same for all 90% coinage. 12X face currently
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 Posted 07/10/2017  03:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coconutjoe to your friends list

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With fractional bullion the processing and minting cost needs to go somewhere. 1/0th oz and 1g rounds will sell at a large premium relative to 100 oz bars. The same is not true of coins as the government absorbs the cost and because they literally make the money, its hidden.


Makes perfect sense!
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07/10/2017 03:16 am
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 Posted 07/10/2017  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Even then the government (in the early years) preferred to make halves and dollars rather than dimes and quarters because it took ten times as much labor to make a dollars worth of dimes than it did a dollars worth of silver dollars.
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