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1960 LMC With Interesting-Looking Doubling/Gouging - What Is It?

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 Posted 08/31/2017  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
My problem agreeing here is the fact of what it takes to "repair" this shift of hubbing. Generally, a shift this great affects ALL the motto, a 3% shift(think 1955) making that working hub would have been trashed by quality control, not polished out which would have been near impossible between all devices.

That said, here's a "what if"...to repair this 3% shift, the die must be ground down(if possible) and start the hubbing process over again. If this is/can be done the possibility exists that not all previous details were "erased", leaving a previous partial impression. This would de a question for Mike Diamond, not John Wexlers?

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 Posted 08/31/2017  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Good point. Still a head scratcher for me a little bit.
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 Posted 08/31/2017  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list
@ CrazyB did you check out this mention of similarity from TB


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That said, the reason I am asking that that I find enough similarity with 1964 DDO-022 that I think it is worth running around the experts for an opinion. Which people are giving and I thank you!

http://varietyvista.com/01b%20LC%20...4PDDO022.htm



there is another really odd one that was discovered with one of our members a few months back I believe it was from the 1940's and it affected IN GOD - it was cool but I can't find the thread on it.
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 Posted 08/31/2017  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
Other examples of large shifts without much else going on, I think, would be the new 1944 WDDO-022 and the mysterious 1934 DDO-004. But here there is still the missing O doubling...
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 Posted 08/31/2017  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list
AhHa, finally found the post I was looking for.

http://goccf.com/t/278588
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 Posted 08/31/2017  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
I was thinking a later post de-bunked that one as "not" a doubled die. Could be wrong.
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 Posted 08/31/2017  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list

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I was thinking a later post de-bunked that one as "not" a doubled die. Could be wrong.


I missed it then - seems like you are correct though should have been WDDO-023 according to the info on that post but it's not on doubleddie.com - just checked.
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 Posted 08/31/2017  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
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 Posted 08/31/2017  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list
Thanks - I was hoping coop would have visited your post today. Let us know what you decide to do.
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 Posted 08/31/2017  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list

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But here there is still the missing O doubling...


The overlay keeps me on the fence. Thought I'd ask is the spot in the center of the "O" raised as it seems close to lining up as well? Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 08/31/2017  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
Yes, the spot in the center of the O is raised, but I think I've seen such a thing on a variety of cents from that era and haven't really considered it as part of anything fishy going on.
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 Posted 08/31/2017  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dino to your friends list
Can we rule out an issue with the original blank or planchet step?
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 Posted 08/31/2017  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
I think so. I've got a lot of these from that set I went through so it pretty much has to be a die issue.
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 Posted 09/02/2017  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I would like to see other areas of the devices.
1. The eye area
2. LIBERTY area
3. Other devices of the motto as well.
4. The top of the head outline to see it is altered.
If just the areas seen are affected, it might be die damage. But if it is a hub related issue, other areas might show us more. It looks raised. But the absence of a raised area on the 'O' concerns me.
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 Posted 11/14/2017  08:18 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
I have received this coin back from Mr. Wexler. His determination is that this is a die gouge, so I do believe that is the end of the story here. Thanks for all the comments along the way, and we can now call this one solved.
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