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Take The Plunge....or Am I A Fool.

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 Posted 05/06/2008  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morgantype to your friends list
The way I see it is he may not have a lot of buyers, therefore I would offer a little lower and see if youcan't pick it up for a deal. I would offer 5 - 7K for the lot. I would also plan on these coins being HIGHLY circulated with anything close to a semi-key date pulled out and gone.

If it were me, and I had 5 - 7K to throw around I would go to the Long Beach show in a few weeks and pick up some keydate Morgan dollars (i.e. 93S, 94 etc.)

To me, the only way I would buy this lot is to be able to resell it and make a little bit of money. Even 5% on 8K would be about 400 bucks!
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 Posted 05/07/2008  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list
Did he approach you or did you ask him to sell?
Who initiated the "sale" talk?

I can't stand when someone is actively selling
something, but won't put a price. However, if
it was you asking them to sell, then ball's in
your court. If that is the case, you can offer
low, but it won't be accepted.

In the case of him initiating the sale, I would
offer low just out of spite and to force him to
set a price. And I don't mean '10% low', or low
end fair offer... I mean 'insulting low'.
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 Posted 05/07/2008  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list
HOLY MOWLEY !!.....

You have to buy the "whole pile" ?

Well, if so, you're gonna need A LOT of cash !
Morgans...$3,150.00 at $18.00 apiece **(and some could be worth hundreds of dollars just for ONE of them)**
Peace.......$2,125.00 at $17.00 apiece......same details.
IHP's....$250.00
WLH's.....$1,000.00
Franklins $1,500.00
I could go on and on here.......but WOW ! You could easily have $10,000.00 there my friend !..
Is there any way you could buy "just" what you wanted ?
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 Posted 05/07/2008  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list
First, I assume you have looked at them and that they are not a pile of culls. Second, I never like to give the first price, I may raise the sellers sights. Rather, throw out a offer of $4000 and go from there. What you really want to know is what number he has in mind. Good luck!
Jim
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 Posted 05/07/2008  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list
Jim, I think you're thinking right along the same lines that as I was. I have bought lots like these. It's easy to overbid on it. If you're looking to keep them, that's one thing. But, it's a whole different story if you want to move that material and I've done just that several times. It can be a lot of work.
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 Posted 05/07/2008  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimR to your friends list
If your going to buy a lot like in an attempt to flip it for a profit I would recommend you consult a grey sheet and then offer about 50-60% of that amount bearing in mind the bullion value of the silver coins.

Having said that it is always best for the seller to state his price first.
Edited by JimR
05/07/2008 12:26 pm
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 Posted 05/07/2008  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list
Well......at 17 years old.......assuming you don't have that kind of cash......just see if he'll sell you 2 or 3 Morgans out of it and walk away cheesin'!....
Edited by eaglefoot
05/07/2008 12:37 pm
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 Posted 05/07/2008  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list
Offer $5000.00, and if he haggles, turn and walk away.
Dick
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 Posted 05/07/2008  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list
Do you have any pictures? I would guess that most of that is junk coins that were headed to get melted?
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 Posted 05/07/2008  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Sounds a little fishy to me. I'd want to see all of them prior to making any offer. Could be a pile of damaged coins. Worn, dented, scratched, chipped, etc. If a pile of junk, not worth much except pure melt prices. I've seen piles of junk coins like those might be at flea markets and just dumped into bins. All the halves looked like they were used in slot machines for many years.
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 Posted 05/07/2008  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneMoreRoll to your friends list
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that all the key dates have been picked out. I am going to offer 5000 like you said, Dick. I'm not going any higher than that because, well, I just dont have that kind of money. haha. I think that my best bet would be to buy it and resell as bullion.
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 Posted 05/07/2008  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpringCypress to your friends list
Without seeing the lot I think you're break even point would be around $8600 based on what you can sell this stuff for in lots on ebay.

I wouldn't off 8600 for it since it would be quite a bit of work to break all this up into lots / list it / pay fees / deal with bidders who would bid on this sort of stuff / etc...

That said I think $5k is a little low as well. The silver would be easy enough to get rid of as it always sells at at least melt value. The rest of the stuff is where it might take a bit to get rid of. Especially the foreign coins. You'd end up having to run 70 or so auctions or you could set up one dutch one, but I think you'd be looking at a couple of weeks to turn over the entire inventory.

Were it me I'd offer $6800 and be willing to go up to $7500 that way you'd be looking at a profit of between $1.2k and $2k over the course of a couple of weeks.

Here's the way I broke it all down...

175 Morgan dollars
125 Peace dollars
85 Walking Liberty halves
150 Franklin halves
150 Kennedy halves
12 Seated dimes
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Melt value = 6341
Numismatic value = ?


250 INDIAN HEAD PENNIES
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cull value = ~200
AG - G value = ~300

8,500 WHEAT PENNIES
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selling on ebay @ ~$25/500 = 425

25 Eisenhower dollars
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? = ~30

3 ADAMS SMOOTH EDGE ERROR DOLLARS
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uncertified = ~200 x 3 = 600

7,000 FOREIGN COINS
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ebay average in 100 coin lots is .13 per coin = ~900
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 Posted 05/08/2008  02:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list
Offer $1500 and you won't tell the cops.



OK, OK, I'm kidding!



Don't forget your friends here........
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 Posted 05/08/2008  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneMoreRoll to your friends list
Haha, I am going to do my best to get this lot for super low. I will keep you guys informed.
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 Posted 05/08/2008  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list
As far as I'm concerned there is way to little information offered to make anything but a hand grenade guess. Are the Kennedy's Silver? Are the Wheaties all from the 50's? Are there readable dates? How much is damaged? 7000 Canadian pennies? The variables are so huge that silver melt minus at least 15-20%( I always wonder about folks who get"melt" for their silver? Everyone along the line to the smelter gets a piece of the action!)
Finally, what do you plan to do with the coins? Flip, save. cull and sell? My guess is I have no idea other than as others have suggested a possibly insulting low ball offer. Lastly and most importantly is do you have a past relationship with coins with this person? That means a whole lot when trying to come up with a guesstimate offer. Mike
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