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Tai-Ching-Ti-Kuo Silver Coin. But Is It ? (Id: Modern Repro)

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 Posted 11/11/2017  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list
Yes indeed, it is (again) one of the many fakes.
If it is valuable, the Chinese make replica's
https://www.thespruce.com/chinese-c...ring-4071202
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 Posted 11/12/2017  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list
I keep all my fakes/counterfeits/replicas for reference and sharing.
The first thing I noticed was that the obverse features looked quite worn, but the fields weren't damaged.
Also the dragon scales looked mis-shaped.
Whenever someone tells me something about a coin, I want to ask, "How do you know?"
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 Posted 11/17/2017  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list
If a coin is scarce/valueble, the Chinese makes copies...
If you have seen a lot of these replicas, you can tell immediatly if it is fake
Some people collect these replica's.
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 Posted 11/09/2018  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffbuckes to your friends list
I have 23 of these "coins" - all magnetic, all counterfeit... I'm not surprised...

I would never sell these as legit, but is there any market for these trinkets...?

Or should I just toss them in the bin...?

Any advice greatly appreciated...

(FYI: I got these in a batch of foreign coins I bought at a coin show so I'm not upset that they're fake...)
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 Posted 11/10/2018  06:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list

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is there any market for these trinkets...?


Other than for unsuspecting tourists, I am not aware of one. As noted above, some folks will fave them in their black cabinet when they come across them, but I'm not aware of anyone actively collecting them. It would be sorta like going to the beach with the intent to collect sand.
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 Posted 11/10/2018  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
Actually there may be a market for these. As long as they are honestly presented for a reasonable price. They could sell on ebay. Despite not being genuine, they could be fun to collect and study. I know a Disabled Vet through a contact at a VA Hospital in Arizona. They have a coin club and welcome donations. Call them trinkets, but they can be interesting trinkets. The novelty of study and discovery of the flaws can serve a collector just as well as the hunt and study of genuine coins. Pass them around, let others see what's right or surprisingly wrong and they can fill a small need for someone somewhere. If you have 23 all magnetic, go ahead and list them on ebay and see what happens.
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 Posted 11/10/2018  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Looks like a modern copy.
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 Posted 11/10/2018  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffbuckes to your friends list
Thanks for all the replies ...

Is there anywhere to buy a counterstamp marked "copy" or "counterfeit"...?

I'd like to stamp these and then list them for sale... I don't want to release them into the wild as is...
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 Posted 11/10/2018  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
I think if you just describe them as not genuine, you'd be ok. Collectors I know would not want to photograph or include them in albums if defaced.
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 Posted 11/11/2018  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jadey to your friends list
I have a number of them that I acquired in lots about a decade ago. The ones on the right are all steel (magnetic), but the others are not. I suspect that they are all fake. They can be interesting to look at, but I would certainly be willing to donate the counterfeits to a war vet's club.



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 Posted 11/11/2018  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
They can be interesting despite being fake because you can study them to learn how to read the characters. And in doing so, one can also be surprised to see obvious wrong things on some of them. I bought a couple assortments like the one pictured just for that purpose. Much time can be enjoyed to learn about what is depicted on each coin and it doesn't matter if steel or not. Doesn't have to be genuine to be appreciated. Actual genuine coins like these may never be available to most. However, one downside is that you really should have some books by essential authors. While not overly costly, a serious collector would or should invest in some of the better reference books.
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 Posted 11/23/2018  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list
hmm I actually want to buy some for just that sort of purpose research and learning, but I'm unwilling to pay for shipping or even production cost (some sell them as fakes, but they ask normally for to much, my guess is they are trying to recover their loses so I dont hold it against them). Cause I know that they will show up in bulk lots.
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 Posted 11/24/2018  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffbuckes to your friends list
Hey ryurazu - Did I misread your post...? If you don't want to pay for shipping or production how will you buy them? What's "too much"?
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