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First Restoration Attempt. How Did I Do?

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 Posted 03/12/2018  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list
price paid was crazy low! Would love to buy some halves for that price.
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 Posted 03/12/2018  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Fantastic. Makes me wonder what is in your water.
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 Posted 03/12/2018  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list
Please tell me where I can get Franklin halves at 7.5x face.
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 Posted 03/12/2018  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add einstem to your friends list
Hard to believe that was just with water!

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 Posted 03/14/2018  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Webster to your friends list
So wait I'm confused, is this coin now considered "cleaned"? Why or why not? I was under the impression that doing anything of this nature to coins was bad.
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 Posted 03/14/2018  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list
That's a very legitimate question, Webster and one that is very worthy of a debate! I'll make my point short and sweet and then let others chime in. I didn't use any abrasive chemicals. Just hot water and acetone. IMO the appearance of the coin afterwards is much better than before.

But let's hear what others have to say.
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 Posted 03/14/2018  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ty88ty2 to your friends list
I do not believe this coin to be 'cleaned'. I agree with Mike on the abrasive chemicals part. Water is very 'natural' if you want to call it that. It doesn't actually do anything to the surfaces of the coin. It only removed that 'icky cruddy possibly old blood' stuff.
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 Posted 03/14/2018  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
The hobby tends to define a coin as "cleaned" when there is metal removed by chemical or polishing/rubbing etc. Removing dirt on the surface is conserving. You are not altering the metal of the coin itself.

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 Posted 03/15/2018  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heymikep to your friends list
Does this mean that if submitted to a TPG that it would or would not get a "Details" designation? or is this a whole different question than is it considered cleaned or not cleaned?
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The hobby tends to define a coin as "cleaned" when there is metal removed by chemical or polishing/rubbing etc. Removing dirt on the surface is conserving. You are not altering the metal of the coin itself.
I agree.
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 Posted 03/15/2018  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list
also.....
and it looks GREAT Mike!
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Does this mean that if submitted to a TPG that it would or would not get a "Details" designation? or is this a whole different question than is it considered cleaned or not cleaned?


It depends if I'm feeling lucky. I did use a tooth pic after the acetone soak but upon close inspection, I don't think It created any hairlines. This coin still has cartwheel luster and it retained it's light-gold toning.

Obviously no one is going to spend the money to send it in. It's an xf album Franklin half and that's all it will ever be unless silver explodes to the upside.
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 Posted 03/15/2018  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add two_tonevf35 to your friends list
Nicely done
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 Posted 03/15/2018  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list

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It depends if I'm feeling lucky. I did use a tooth pic after the acetone soak but upon close inspection, I don't think It created any hairlines. This coin still has cartwheel luster and it retained it's light-gold toning.


I see it this way: If somehow I accidentally got a drop of melted butter on a coin, removing the butter is not going to make a "numismatically" cleaned coin if I simply put some warm water & mild detergent, to cut the grease, on the coin to remove the butter.

I would then rinse the coin thoroughly in purified water. Lastly it would have an acetone dip to remove any organic molecule that somehow escaped the above process.

Conservation...not cleaning; hence no details grade should be given.


However, the coin would be "numismatically cleaned" if I use the soap and water, with a wire brush to remove the butter.

OK - a bit extreme there. But even if I did perform the first scenario to get rid of the butter (conserve the coin), and then used a paper towel or tissue to wipe the coin dry, the tissue would actually leave hairline scratches on the surface and the coin has then been "cleaned" and should earn a details grade.



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I did use a tooth pic...

Just sharing what I use - porcupine quills. They have a much smaller diameter tip that will even get the dirt out of cavities of a mint mark; The quills also seem to be softer than a toothpick. My dissecting microscope (a whole 35.00 on ebay) and a porcupine quill make for an easy time of removing dirt from inside fine details.

Yup - unless you see them road kill, you can get the quills inexpensively on ebay.
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https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2
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 Posted 03/16/2018  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list

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Just sharing what I use - porcupine quills. They have a much smaller diameter tip that will even get the dirt out of cavities of a mint mark; The quills also seem to be softer than a toothpick. My dissecting microscope (a whole 35.00 on ebay) and a porcupine quill make for an easy time of removing dirt from inside fine details.


porcupine quills? First time I've ever heard of that. I hope they were gluten free!

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